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That's a weird one. Although, as was mentioned, they can issue the charge in the manner that they did, it's definitely not normal, unless there was some sort of emergency call that the officer had to handle ASAP.

Racer pretty much nailed it. The scratching out of "Toronto" and substituting "Vaughan" should be considered a fatal error. Here's ...

Unless they were parked WAY behind the entrance, they probably could've seen if anyone made the turn. If the officer shows up for trial, he'll testify that he clearly observed you make the turn. To fight his testimony, you'd have to take a photograph from exactly where he was standing/sitting and show that it would be impossible for him to observe ...

This incident is funny and stupid at the same time. I guess Fantino wasn't kidding when he said they'd seize their own cruisers. I wonder which tow truck company got the call to impound the vehicle, and are the taxpayers going to be hit with the impound fee or is the officer paying out of her pocket?

Are any non-domestic vehicles "pursuit-rated" in North America? Also have the Michigan State Police (this is relevant because apparently they have the most accepted selection/testing process) tested any of them to see if they meet their criteria? Just curious...

The bad news about traffic tickets in Quebec is that the $115 is the base fine. If you choose to fight the ticket, they will hit you with a huge court surcharge, as well as raise the fine if you get convicted. At least they used to. Also, in Quebec the officer does not have to be physically present in the courtroom and can testify via written ...

Some motorcyclists insist that their loud pipes are a safety necessity, so that people will "hear them coming," and react accordingly. Yeah... sure... Doesn't work too well for emergency vehicles with the siren blaring so I don't know why they think a loud muffler will make any difference.

The officer does not have to directly observe the sign itself at the exact moment of the offence. They do have to observe the offence . Example: Sometimes they'll sit around a corner where there is a "no right turn" or "no left turn" sign, or whatever, and nail anyone who makes the turn. That's enough to get a conviction, usually.

BUT (a little ...

You might have a chance, nothing's guaranteed though. Lately around the GTA, some officers have been saying they will "help you" if you take it to court. Could mean anything. They are tending to show up more often than not, although in one previous incident mentioned on this website, an officer with the Peel Police said similar stuff, showed up for ...

The bilingual argument works if the sign is not bilingual and you happened to be in a "designated bilingual area." Mississauga IS a designated bilingual area. What sign specifically were you ticketed for disobeying? I'm assuming it was a "no trucks" sign... actually I sort-of know the area. If there were no written words on it, bilingual argument ...

(when I become an "evil knievel")


You're a motorcycle cop too? Oh great, now I have to re-plan my "ticket avoidance" strategy when travelling to Windsor. :lol:

Road service vehicles must be readily identified as such by their license plates, which say "Road Service Vehicle".

Thought it was by some sort of decal... if at all...

So many drivers are oblivious to rear antenna, do the ole slow down once they identify the cruiser and then still pass the marked car above the speed limit

Drivers not looking far enough ahead... or paying attention? Out of curiosity... how many times have you been driving along in a marked cruiser and had a driver rocket up behind you and blow ...

If you drive through a school zone, can you tell if you're going 40km/h or 120km/h without looking at the speedometer?


If you're from Toronto: No. :shock:

Can he take legal action against the OPP or that other Constable?

I think so. He's already filed four complaints with the Human Rights Commission against the OPP so I can't see why he ...

Reflections wrote:Yep but they don't enforce provincial laws, OHTA for example.

They can if they've been "deputized." Most, if not all, of RCMP in Ottawa have been deputized as they also do traffic enforcement on NCC roads, such as the Ottawa River Parkway, Aviation Parkway, etc.

For all paces we (at least my court area....and the 3 surrounding ones) require that the patrol vehicle speedometer has been checked by radar or lidar comparison to obtain a conviction from a pace on a speedometer.


Highway Safety Division around here was running a couple of pace cars without radar/lidar... and issuing PON from them. I have no ...

Missing signature is a "fatal error," so yes it will be dismissed. The officer simply writing his/her name at the top of the ticket is not sufficient. OOPS. Fight it. Check out this explanation:

http://www.ticketcombat.com/step5/quash.php

Don't forget to find parking, lets drop 20 minutes off the travel time for the 401-DVP-Queens park route and 48 minute to travel 118KM. Lets see 6 goes into 48 8 times........divide 118 by 8 and multiple by 10 and survey says 147.5 KM/H "average". Nope he never even came close to 150..........

So, realistically, Constable Donnelley's testimony ...

Yes, Quebec has similar laws, but they actually didn't try to hide anything about it, they said it was to deal with "excessive speeding." They also don't have a vehicle seizure for the first offence, just a roadside licence suspension. Finally, there's a sliding scale, so on lower-speed roads (that may be residential sidestreets), it kicks it at 40 ...

Legal? Probably. Fair/shady? Well... that's debatable.

On the ticket itself it doesn't state what sign I was disobeying. It only says "disobey sign".

Yes, sort of. I'm guessing he didn't say which sign it was, either. The disclosure request will be key, in that you will get the officer's notes and be able to form a defence from there, among other things. Ask for an explanation and clarification of ...

But who? The OPP, the province? both?


Everyone. The OPP, the officer, the Attorney-General of Ontario. Not saying that the lawsuit would be successful, but people who had their vehicles impounded and subsequently got acquitted of the charge should get reimbursed. If several similar lawsuits are successful, they'll mothball the law or repeal the ...

Holy *EDIT*, Reflections. I just about fell out of my chair.

Any links to the case where the guy was going over 300, and how they caught him? That one sounds interesting!


Unfortunately all of the links I had were broken links. The CBC originally reported it on May 23, 2005, with the headline: "OPP reports weekend lunacy on roads." It was on the Victoria Day long weekend. They clocked a guy on the 400 at ...

People do drive extremely fast on the 400. When I hear people complain of crazy driving on the 401, I usually say: "Yeah, it's a little challenging... but if you think that's bad, try the 400." Wide road, long commutes, and a higher police tolerance for speeds. If they stop and tow the guy going 150 they'll miss the guy going 180+.

You know, it is about 0.01 second thing.


You may be right, you may not be able to change anything. It's still worth a try. $4400 per year is a lot to pay in insurance premiums. If nothing else, FSCO could provide you with more help than I could. I'm told that they are usually helpful, and willing to clarify what should've happened and how the ...

luckyrat6, call your insurance company and politely tell them that perhaps they did not correctly understand how the crash happened. If your adjuster said that the driver who turns left is always 100% at fault, he is not correct, and perhaps you should ask him for a clarification of why the Fault Determination Rules do not apply to this case. You ...

In the disclosure request, also ask for the officer's driving and disciplinary record. If he has a history of this sort of behaviour it weakens his credibility on the witness stand.

15. Consumes or attempts to consume a bowl of cereal or cereal products, with or without milk, while operating a motor vehicle (I SAW THAT TWICE LAST WEEK ON THE DVP, GOOD GOD...)
16. Reverses on a 400-Series highway or expressway
17. Does not make a reasonable effort to pull to the right or clear the way for emergency vehicles that are responding ...

Reflections wrote:If you hit 200 on any public hwy in ontario you should be thrown in jail, period.

No argument from me. That's definitely dangerous driving.

Because the radio is faster then any car on the road......still laughing though


That's probably why.

That said, 231 is still way below the provincial record some guy from Toronto set on the 400... he was caught going 300+.

How fast did the cop have to drive to catch this guy.

My sources tell me that they radioed ahead to officers near the ...