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The French Language Service Act (FLSA) requires all services and procedures to be in both languages. It applies to ALL communications. If the part of the certificate or notice of offence that the cop fills in is not in both languages it doesn't pass the smell test.


Unfortunately the courts in Ottawa have rejected that as a valid defence ...

Lawman: To you, thank you aswell for clearing the car impound situation up. So, is this what they do, even for 50kpm over the speed limit? Charge 9.75 approx. for each kilometer you were doing over the speed limit?


The fine is set by the Justice of the Peace at trial. He can set it above the total or below it. He could fine you $50 or $500, or ...

Did he hand you a ticket or notice indicating what you were charged with? To try to explain this, there are two things that can be used to charge drivers going 50 km/h or more over the speed limit. One of them is section 172, which is street racing/stunt driving. This is where they impound your car and take your license on the spot for 7 days ...

Now if "discretion" includes charging for 50 km/h over under Section 128 instead, then I would agree with it - both charges would match the circumstances, and I know of nothing that states the more severe penalty should apply.


S. 128 would have worked in these circumstances and I don't think most of us would've had any problem with the officer ...

That's a pretty good dent. Your insurer no doubt found you 0% at fault. Now I'm really hoping that they catch him, because with more hit-and-run claims, insurance premiums increase for everyone in the region where it occurred.

Like we're not already paying high insurance premiums here!!

I agree with cruzmisl. No one was protected or safeguarded by seizing that vehicle. 49 km/h over has serious enough consequences.

firegoblin wrote:is radar accuret wile a police car is in moshion ????

Going back to the topic at hand here... yes, it is. A lot of police cars have forward and rearward-looking radar installed. You could pay a paralegal to fight this one or try to plea-bargain for something less, such as 95 km/h in an 80 km/h zone, to save demerit points.

martron wrote:So would a good process be:

1) get the court date
2) request disclosure materials
3) find out who the prosecutor is
4) call and bargain

Yes. Make it look, to the Prosecutor, like you're ready to fight all the way... then plea-bargain. I'd imagine that they'd offer you something appealing.

The fact that the steering wheel was cranked all the way over, unable to stop, car had ABS, all points to hydroplaning.

Yeah, probably. And he'll bring about 20 false witnesses to boot.

Aha, we got you RI! You are a pilot! Ever got asked for a pilot license when speeding?


Believe it or not... yes. That was one of the most unbelievable moments I've had on the road. Officer was trying to be funny when he stopped me: "Let's see the pilot's license, sir, because you were flying down the road back there." :oops: I complied.

I got ...

The weaving was more of an impatient weaving than drunken weaving (the drunken stuff tends to be slower and more like "drifting"). He didn't seem drunk with his "evasive maneuvers" after the collision.

So he was a demented kamikaze instead of a drunk, and also knew he'd hit you by trying to run away. I hope they catch him.

At this point I'm ...

The roads that remain open during the winter get some salting. Some of the roads through the mountain passes in Montana and Wyoming are closed during the winter, due to lack of winter maintenance, and some of them are avalanche hazards.

Ironically, the National Motorists Association (not to be confused with AAA or CAA), listed Wyoming as the ...

In September I'll be going out to Yellowstone Park so I got thinking:

Ontario and Massachusetts have the safest roads in North America (lowest fatality rate).
Wyoming and Montana have the most unsafe roads in North America (highest fatality rate).

Any thoughts on why that might be? Curious as to what you think.

(Side note: I've found drivers ...

Answer time:

1. You can call the Prosecutor and try to plea-bargain. The $5 court fee is already included in the total payable so it doesn't matter when it is paid. Plea-bargaining may also get rid of one of the tickets, or possibly reduce the speed even further.
2. Yes, it gives you leverage when plea-bargaining. "Fail to surrender insurance" is ...

Get in touch with a paralegal. X-Copper is our website sponsor so I'd recommend talking to them first. They will be able to guide you through the process. This is the best way to avoid any further suspensions. However, to help them with the case, I'd recommend first re-visiting the area in which you were allegedly speeding.

When you re-visit the ...

This is an actual video of the Toronto Fire Service driving to an emergency call. The firefighter is providing colour commentary. Rather interesting viewing as they manoeuvre through mid-town Toronto. Starts getting lively at about the 1:30 mark as they are driving westbound on Eglinton Avenue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n99eblgjFaE&feature ...

hwybear wrote:don't forget the gloves *snap*

Uh-oh...

Sounds like he might've been drunk, particularly with the weaving in his lane, sideswiping you and continuing along as though nothing had happened. If you haven't got a hold of anyone, try the OPP Downsview detachment at 416-235-4981. If they won't take the call they should direct you to someone who will.

I know the interchange you're speaking of ...

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Dang Squishy! Sorry to hear that! Hope you're okay! :shock:

I probably would've called 9-1-1 or *OPP for that arch-dingbat... but now probably would call the nearest OPP detachment and see what they say. Where did the collision occur?

WTF - how did that moron NOT know he'd hit something?!? :evil:

I think the more detail you have, the better ...

Before you talk to the police again, get in touch with a paralegal ASAP!! X-Copper is our website sponsor so I'd recommend talking to them first. (Before doing that, re-visit the scene of collision with a pen and paper, take some photos so you can show the paralegal, and make as many notes as you can. Re-visiting the scene will help jog your memory ...

We are not allowed to give a "copy" of any part of a manual to anyone as it is a copyrighted. We have provided a manual at the court for someone to peruse thru if their so intent.


Okay, but the JP in this case said "you are not entitled to the radar manual." Looks like he was going to deny him any access to the material when he should've ...

The Highway Traffic Act says your husband made an improper turn and failed to yield. BUT... that's not the be-all, end-all of this situation. By the way, did your husband use a hand signal to indicate he was turning left since his turn signals were not working?

The Fault Determination Rules (Ontario regulation 668/1990) outlines who is at fault ...

As TC was saying, permanent plate has to be attached on both front and rear of vehicle. Wording seems to imply attached to the front grille or bumper. You could try seeking a reduced fine or plea-bargaining to something less, if the Prosecutor is willing. Would be at least worth a phone call to try to work something out. It's a little harder to ...

JP says: "You are not entitled to the radar manual, and based on case laws that I've decided on in the past, you need to do your research, come back on Sep 3"

:roll: Most JPs have not been to law school, obviously this one hasn't either and hasn't done his research, either. Many people on this forum are more familiar with case law and precedent ...

Well it might be worth taking it to court, if you have paperwork from the shop. Best thing to do is to make a disclosure request to the Crown to see what's in the officer's notes. The thing that might be an issue is the "straight exhaust" portion, can't say for sure one way or the other how that might turn out. But see how it goes.

the police officer was in in the opesite oncumming lane he was fallowing another car so close that i was not even able to see his cruser till he was buy he said that i was going 111 in a 80 he said he hade me on radar he only asked for me drivers licencs and never asked for my insurence so on the ticket there no insurence dose enyone think i can ...

We are able to enter photos taken on those $6 35mm film cameras, provided we have the orginals plus another copy of all photos should defence inquire. The other way was poloroid, photo copy the pictures and bring the orginals to court.

Would be $6 well spent. (Note to self: Carry $6 35mm camera next time driving through Chatham. :) Second note ...

I want to do first attendance because I really do not want to go to trial and waste time from work. I would rather listen to the offer they make and if I agree, case closed as they say.

They should be willing to listen. The better you are at convincing them that you're trying to save their time (even though you really aren't), the more likely ...