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by Decatur
Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:06 pm
Forum: General Talk
Topic: Introducing evidence to court, researching the law
Replies: 18
Views: 7978

Re: Introducing evidence to court, researching the law

I'm just curious, where was the alleged offence, and what type of speed measuring device was used. Some of the disclosure doesn't make sense for an officer written ticket.
by Decatur
Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:17 pm
Forum: General Talk
Topic: Red light camera if you fight and loose can it go on driving record?
Replies: 1
Views: 2620

Re: Red light camera if you fight and loose c?n it go on driving record?

No. The registered owner is issued the ticket. Identification of the driver isn't necessary.
by Decatur
Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:15 pm
Forum: Courts and Procedure
Topic: officer wont disclose lidar manual due to copyright
Replies: 2
Views: 3851

Re: officer wont disclose lidar manual due to copyright

https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onsc/doc/2 ... pletePos=7

Region of York v McGuigan

And it's binding on lower courts. The only possibility of turning this one over would be taking a similar case to the Ontario Court of Appeal.
by Decatur
Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:58 pm
Forum: Stunt Driving
Topic: Something feels fishy with my stunt driving charge
Replies: 4
Views: 4433

Re: Something feels fishy with my stunt driving charge

There seems to be a serious flaw in the process that the officer has followed. Under section 172(5) it states that the if the officer believes on rpg that a person has driven in contravention of subsection 1, the officer shall request that the person surrender their licence and SHALL detain the motor vehicle. IMO this process must be followed if ...
by Decatur
Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:01 pm
Forum: Exceeding the speed limit by 30 to 49 km/h
Topic: calibration certificate/history?
Replies: 4
Views: 3552

Re: calibration certificate/history?

In order for you to proceed wth an O'Connor application, you're likely to spend several days in court, even before you see a trial if that's where you end up.
by Decatur
Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:53 am
Forum: General Talk
Topic: Charge does not match ticket
Replies: 9
Views: 3721

Re: Charge does not match ticket

Just so you're aware. A 2017 OCA case R v Davis, allows the officer to modify the ticket after service in most cases.
by Decatur
Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:57 pm
Forum: Exceeding the speed limit by 30 to 49 km/h
Topic: 149 Km/h on 401
Replies: 3
Views: 4186

Re: 149 Km/h on 401

You can't score if you don't shoot the puck! If you have time to go to the meeting and don't have any convictions, they may reduce it further if you're apologetic and don't go in with a chip on your shoulder.
If they don't offer you anything further , you can simply offer to pay it. If you need more time to pay, that can also be easily arranged ...
by Decatur
Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:41 pm
Forum: Exceeding the speed limit by 30 to 49 km/h
Topic: 149 Km/h on 401
Replies: 3
Views: 4186

Re: 149 Km/h on 401

On the first page of the notes, last line, arrow pointing down usually means you were slowing 150 down to 149. Technically stunt driving at 150. The officer decided to charge you at 149. If you take this to trial and the officer testifies that you were driving 150, the prosecutor will probably amend the ticket up to the original speed. In that case ...
by Decatur
Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:49 pm
Forum: General Talk
Topic: Introducing evidence to court, researching the law
Replies: 18
Views: 7978

Re: Introducing evidence to court, researching the law

Disclosure is the responsibility of the prosecutor. The police wont give you the manual.

That book is not used in training officers on the use of radar in Ontario. Most officers have probably never even heard of it. Depending on its publication date, it may even be very outdated.
by Decatur
Sun Apr 08, 2018 7:28 am
Forum: General Talk
Topic: Introducing evidence to court, researching the law
Replies: 18
Views: 7978

Re: Introducing evidence to court

As per this case: https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onsc/doc/2 ... sc436.html

There is no longer a requirement to provide any portion of the manual.
by Decatur
Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:11 pm
Forum: General Talk
Topic: Case Law- Disclosure of only testing pages of radar manual
Replies: 13
Views: 4888

Re: Case Law- Disclosure of only testing pages of radar manu

This thread is over a year old. Please do not post to outdated threads.
by Decatur
Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:09 pm
Forum: General Talk
Topic: Emergency Court Of Appeal help excessive speed
Replies: 4
Views: 2558

Re: Emergency Court Of Appeal help excessive speed

Youre not likely to get a lot of assistance with case law from Alberta. We are much more familiar with Ontario case law here.
For example, in Ontario the manual does not have to be produced nor an operator certificate.
by Decatur
Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:51 pm
Forum: General Talk
Topic: Is this running an amber light?
Replies: 8
Views: 7220

Re: Is this running an amber light?

This post is over six years old. Do not post to threads more than 30 days old unless youre the OP. Please read the forum rules prior to posting again.
by Decatur
Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:08 pm
Forum: General Talk
Topic: Summons for HTA 82 (9)
Replies: 8
Views: 3642

Re: Summons for HTA 82 (9)

Walk into Service Ontario with the plate portion and advise them that the vehicle has been sold. If you have use for the plates and are not turning them in, they will list them as unattached.
by Decatur
Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:49 pm
Forum: General Talk
Topic: Summons for HTA 82 (9)
Replies: 8
Views: 3642

Re: Summons for HTA 82 (9)

The owner of the motor vehicle is also responsible for notifying the Ministry on ceasing to be the owner.
by Decatur
Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:19 pm
Forum: General Talk
Topic: Ontario HTA on Front License Plate
Replies: 6
Views: 10096

Re: Ontario HTA on Front License Plate

The only way around it is if youre willing to accept a $110 ticket for it every time youre pulled over. After about the second or third time, be prepared for a Summons.
by Decatur
Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:21 am
Forum: Exceeding the speed limit by 30 to 49 km/h
Topic: Possible Logic Win?
Replies: 10
Views: 3416

Re: Possible Logic Win?

Youre actually lucky that you received any portion of the manual. Recent case law doesnt require disclosure of any parts of speed measuring device manuals.
by Decatur
Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:33 pm
Forum: Exceeding the speed limit by 30 to 49 km/h
Topic: Possible Logic Win?
Replies: 10
Views: 3416

Re: Possible Logic Win?

Id certainly put someones knowledge, skills and abilities above a piece of paper any day of the week. A certificate is only worth the paper its printed on.
by Decatur
Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:42 pm
Forum: General Talk
Topic: Impact of new Supreme Court ruling regarding trial limits?
Replies: 13
Views: 5444

Re: Impact of new Supreme Court ruling regarding trial limit

Youre not likely to get an answer from jsherk. Thats a banned account.
by Decatur
Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:35 am
Forum: Exceeding the speed limit by 16 to 29 km/h
Topic: Inadequate Speed Limit Signage / Barrie
Replies: 7
Views: 4691

Re: Inadequate Speed Limit Signage / Barrie

You're misreading it. There is no need to post signs in a built up area unless the maximum speed is something other than the statutory maximum of 50 km/h. Likewise there is no need to post 80 km/h in the more rural areas. You might also want to check the Bylaw for Barrie. All of their speed variations are in it. If a street isn't listed, it's 50 km/h
by Decatur
Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:54 pm
Forum: Exceeding the speed limit by 16 to 29 km/h
Topic: Inadequate Speed Limit Signage / Barrie
Replies: 7
Views: 4691

Re: Inadequate Speed Limit Signage / Barrie

If the 50 km/h maximum was "within a local municipality or within a built-up area" as per section 128(1)(a) there is no requirement to post any signs. There is only a requirement under section 2(1) of that regulation to post signs "where a maximum rate of speed other than that prescribed by subsection 128 (1) of the Act is prescribed"

Under ...
by Decatur
Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:10 pm
Forum: Failing to obey a stop sign, traffic control stop/slow sign, traffic light or railway crossing signal
Topic: Failure to stop. 136(1)(b)
Replies: 20
Views: 16380

Re: Failure to stop. 136(1)(b)

A dismissal wont even be on the table. They may provide you with disclosure in two days and reschedule the trial.
by Decatur
Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:52 am
Forum: Red Light Camera Ticket
Topic: Right turn on red light camera - complete stop
Replies: 26
Views: 30949

Re: Right turn on red light camera - complete stop

About disclosure. Its your disclosure. Once you request it, its your responsibility to get it and to check to see if its ready. Theres no requirement for them to bend over backwards to make sure you get it.
by Decatur
Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:39 pm
Forum: Red Light Camera Ticket
Topic: Right turn on red light camera - complete stop
Replies: 26
Views: 30949

Re: Right turn on red light camera - complete stop

Here it is:

Where to stop – intersection
(5) A driver who is directed by a traffic control signal erected at an intersection to stop his or her vehicle shall stop,

(a) at the sign or roadway marking indicating where the stop is to be made;

(b) if there is no sign or marking, immediately before entering the nearest crosswalk; or

(c) if there is ...
by Decatur
Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:24 pm
Forum: Speed Traps
Topic: Received ticket for doing 105 in 100 with incorrect fine
Replies: 5
Views: 4025

Re: Received ticket for doing 105 in 100 with incorrect fine

A recent Ontario Court of Appeal decision allows officers to amend a Certificate of Offence after the Offence Notice has been served. Your Offence Notice may not have a fatal flaw. The only way to find out would be to file an appeal with the court.
by Decatur
Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:43 pm
Forum: Courts and Procedure
Topic: Summons 3 court date on ticket incorrect
Replies: 4
Views: 4029

Re: Summons 3 court date on ticket incorrect

They have six months from the date of the offence to serve a summons.
by Decatur
Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:19 pm
Forum: General Talk
Topic: No Insurance Card Ticket
Replies: 9
Views: 4237

Re: No Insurance Card Ticket

With an offence date of June, its not likely that they will withdraw a charge. More likely to get disclosure that day and have it put off to another date.
You also indicate thats you received no reply to your disclosure request. Its actually your responsibility to contact them to see if disclosure is ready.
by Decatur
Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:48 pm
Forum: Exceeding the speed limit by 30 to 49 km/h
Topic: 136km/h in a 100km/hr, possible win?
Replies: 6
Views: 3272

Re: 136km/h in a 100km/hr, possible win?

The blacked out name may be the radar/Lidar instructors name who qualified him. Thes are the officers notes rpthat are made to refresh his/her memory. Its not an all inclusive diary. Youll probably have to get the officer on the stand to clarify these points. If theres no indication of an end of shift test, you may be in a better position for a win ...
by Decatur
Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:53 pm
Forum: Exceeding the speed limit by 30 to 49 km/h
Topic: 136km/h in a 100km/hr, possible win?
Replies: 6
Views: 3272

Re: 136km/h in a 100km/hr, possible win?

It appears that he simply tested two different speed measuring devices. One a laser and the other a moving radar.
by Decatur
Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:16 pm
Forum: Improper use of high occupancy vehicle lane
Topic: got pulled over on a bridge bus lane in Ottawa
Replies: 29
Views: 13118

Re: got pulled over on a bridge bus lane in Ottawa

Trials in absentia are used for offences where a Summons is issued. The officer is then required to present their evidence to establish a conviction.