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simply_greek29 wrote:Does someone with a G2 in Ontario get their license suspended if they have any alcohol at all? or is it just a ticket if they are below the legal limit (0.08?) or is there a lower limit and a ticket? points off license?

Yes it would be suspended for any amount alcohol!
http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/ ... .9.4.shtml

I will give ya 10 bucks for it

Really though why risk siezure and destruction of a antique like that!
you can gut it, still would ruin it though! leave it in the box in your closet!

Great I want to start cleaning up hwybears posts

I drove by that spot today!
In order for him to nail you,he had to hit you at the top of the ramp, and then make his way across 3 lanes of traffic and flag you over!

Just a thought for the OP, another 5km/h over the PSL and you would have been branded a "Stunt Driver"


Sign the Petition (link below)

Did the officer tag you on the ramp or on Lakeshore?

Hi,
You have just one drivers licence, all demerit points will go against your licence, not the class!

So I say Fight it

-- If an offender appears to have done something so serious that he needs to be removed from the highways immediately, suspend his licence and/or arrest him under non-172 provisions of the law and let the courts deal with him in due course. But this pernicious nonsense that allows arbitrary seizure and impoundment should have no place in our ...

people on cell phones. Period.

Also I hate "cutters" as well. I see it everyday. Doesn't have to be in a construction zone, it happens everywhere. Why do we make highways with lanes that end? Why do people use them when they know the lane will end, and why do people let them in? I always make sure a "cutter' ends up behind me. I'm always hoping ...

All of this "stunt driving" or "racing" was already against the law before Bill 203. The penalties available for driving, say, 160 on the 401 were reasonable enough under the HTA. For dangerous driving (example: 238 in an 80 on Highway 26), and for street racing, there was section 249 of the Criminal Code... and still is. And the Criminal Code ...

I agree with Reflections (except for the math part). 755 people were penalized for something they were never convicted of. And of those, 229 were not guilty of anything. That's just wrong.

The whole law is wrong!
If those 755 people who were penalized, recieved their up front fees back, the plane would be brought down and sold on ebay, pilot ...

hwybear wrote:does this mean we have to sign that petition? or get all posts "nuked"

Yep it does mean you have to sign it!
But please sign it just once!

Since 1999 to 2007 there have been 35 street racing related deaths
They construed those numbers around so well, we now have 172
and 11,000 disasters have been averted

The Petition will be cleaned up in the next few days!

No I don't think there should even be the 7 day suspension, even though some in my opinion deserve that and much more!
I won't dispute that driving is a privilage that some people take for granted!
Anyway you look at it, anyone who resides or visits Canada has the same rights,and those rights ...

Sorry Hwybear I disagree with your 90 day licence suspension :lol:

I do think if you do over 50 the PSL, you should have to pay the piper, only after your day in court and not on the roadside, and if I am not mistaken there were laws in place for this type of offence prior to BILL 203, just a wild uneducated guess, but there was little or no CASH ...

Your boyfriend sounds like a habitual speeder, that being said,I suggest you Lawyer up, not having legal representation would be suicide and a costly one at that!

I despise every aspect of this law!

Sign the Petition please!

I give the guy credit for trying, though I would not want to pass him on my motorcycle or car for that matter!

http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/

Any of the regular posters on OHTA who would like one of these T-shirts
Kindly send me a pm with your info, Supply is limited

Yes Hwybear, you can have one too

Keep raging Bell!

I will trust me, I am Obsessed with it :lol:
I dropped some t-shirts off for the guy who started the petition this weekend, and it was nice to learn that there is many more then 2 Charter Challenges regarding 172!
There is going to be a 3 part series on Global in the near future, I will post here when I know dates and times ...

And to think you had enough sense not to drive and you still get pinched!
I think the keys have to be outside of the car, otherwise they are still accessible by the impaired person(s)

Bel, do I feel an extreme hate, or do you just have a fixation with this??? :D

LOL
Extreme Hate, I was threatend with this charge on my motorcycle along with 3 others, when we had absolutely done nothing wrong!
Quite the scare it was!

Or it might be OCD (I have it, just not for 172 purposes :lol: )

I don't have Oppressive Copper Disorder,I ...

Reflections wrote:Bel, do I feel an extreme hate, or do you just have a fixation with this???

LOL
Extreme Hate, I was threatend with this charge on my motorcycle along with 3 others, when we had absolutely done nothing wrong!
Quite the scare it was!

With the speed limit at 150km/h how are you supposed to go to local track days or drag racing on the weekend(drag strip). :x I guess we all will be using snow tires in the summer as ther speed rating is around 160K. All performance tires will become extinct.

Write the elected MP a letter, tell your him your a NDPer and how does he expect to sway ...

This person knows thier rights, I will buy his book!
"'ABUSE OF POWER - seizure and extortion by an organized gang the Ontario Government" It has to better then Julian Fantinos, "I want to be a politician"

Read the whole thread!

The aim of Ontario's street racing legislation was to stop street racing on public road ways.

The method was ...

Whats next?
I wonder how the auto industry will like this, selling cars on appearance alone!

http://www2.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?DocId=3582859&Language=e&Mode=1&File=24





2nd Session, 39th Parliament,
2e session, 39e l©gislature,

56-57 Elizabeth II, 2007-2008
56-57 Elizabeth II, 2007-2008

house of commons ...

This a Bleeping Joke and is a smack in the face to anyone whos been charged with HTA 172!
One wonders what loophole was used to avoid the siezure and suspensions that every other "Damn Street Racer"gets when charged under HTA 172! :roll:
Just one more nail in the coffin for the Commissioner in my opinion!


http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story ...

Look, if the 6000 or so impoundments to date .

Thats 7500 and counting!




But we all know that is not the case. Some of us even know that not EVERY officer conducts him/herself with the utmost of professionalism. It's irresponsible for any member of government or the OPP commissioner to assume EVERY officer will exercise good judgment when ...

Can you charge someone with just your observation, all over the road
the odor of booze in the vechicle,breath,a wobbley pop walk!
Or does some test need to be done before a charge can be laid?

Whats needed to be charged with impaired?
Breathalyser(sp?)Blood test, Sobriety test?
Any info or links would be appreciated!

The email I recieved from Mr.Klees regarding HTA 172(Bill 203)

From: Klees-CO, Frank
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 9:59 AM

I am acknowledging your email concerning the enforcement of the recent changes to the Highway Traffic Act section 172. Although I did put forward a Private Members Bill to address street racing these changes do not reflect ...