Has anyone done this before? I know two people in ontario that went to court and had all there charges thrown out. One was for no proof on insurance and speeding. Individual asked questions about jurisdiction, and old driving case law, and had them tossed out. Another charged several times for no insurance, no license/suspended, improper plates, and three times had the charges thrown out appearing in court for a short period of time each time. The other which shocked me at first was when someone else had 10 charges thrown out in court without appearing at all for a trial the day before. Do you think its more beneficial for us to learn more about case law, jurisdiction and other things that may help us? I have done research on case law and seen promising and not so promising results.
Has anyone done this before? I know two people in ontario that went to court and had all there charges thrown out. One was for no proof on insurance and speeding. Individual asked questions about jurisdiction, and old driving case law, and had them tossed out. Another charged several times for no insurance, no license/suspended, improper plates, and three times had the charges thrown out appearing in court for a short period of time each time.
The other which shocked me at first was when someone else had 10 charges thrown out in court without appearing at all for a trial the day before. Do you think its more beneficial for us to learn more about case law, jurisdiction and other things that may help us? I have done research on case law and seen promising and not so promising results.
When people told me this I thought it was a legend too. I started looking up more into the topic. Case law into driving which the first Driver License was issued in 1929 in alberta for operators. People argue legislation gives them the power to regulate traffic, which it does under the constitution act. For some reason in canada people like to cite the charter, which is only a small part of the canadian constitution. Much if not all dismissals are from challenging court jurisdiction using disclosure. For example on one site that lists every company in the world, it lists almost every canadian organization as a company or corporation. Likewise, I personally have never had problems with the police. I have gotten pulled over in the past for minor and more serious offenses, and usually let go, but that was years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mukxKL3egwI Restrictions on secondary activities 49. (1) A member of a police force shall not engage in any activity, (a) that interferes with or influences adversely the performance of his or her duties as a member of a police force, or is likely to do so; (b) that places him or her in a position of conflict of interest, or is likely to do so; (c) that would otherwise constitute full-time employment for another person; or (d) in which he or she has an advantage derived from being a member of a police force. R.S.O. 1990, c. P.15, s. 49 (1); 2009, c. 30, s. 50 (1). Obedience to de facto law 15 No person shall be convicted of an offence in respect of an act or omission in obedience to the laws for the time being made and enforced by persons in de facto possession of the sovereign power in and over the place where the act or omission occurs. R.S., c. C-34, s. 15.
When people told me this I thought it was a legend too. I started looking up more into the topic. Case law into driving which the first Driver License was issued in 1929 in alberta for operators. People argue legislation gives them the power to regulate traffic, which it does under the constitution act. For some reason in canada people like to cite the charter, which is only a small part of the canadian constitution. Much if not all dismissals are from challenging court jurisdiction using disclosure. For example on one site that lists every company in the world, it lists almost every canadian organization as a company or corporation. Likewise, I personally have never had problems with the police. I have gotten pulled over in the past for minor and more serious offenses, and usually let go, but that was years ago.
49. (1) A member of a police force shall not engage in any activity,
(a) that interferes with or influences adversely the performance of his or her duties as a member of a police force, or is likely to do so;
(b) that places him or her in a position of conflict of interest, or is likely to do so;
(c) that would otherwise constitute full-time employment for another person; or
(d) in which he or she has an advantage derived from being a member of a police force. R.S.O. 1990, c. P.15, s. 49 (1); 2009, c. 30, s. 50 (1).
Obedience to de facto law
15 No person shall be convicted of an offence in respect of an act or omission in obedience to the laws for the time being made and enforced by persons in de facto possession of the sovereign power in and over the place where the act or omission occurs.
Please don't promote the "freeman" ideas in Canada they will work only to your disadvantage. Exponential levels of frustration will ensue getting you essentially no where, and you will be in a far worse place than you would have been if you had used traditional methods of challenging your ticket.
Please don't promote the "freeman" ideas in Canada they will work only to your disadvantage. Exponential levels of frustration will ensue getting you essentially no where, and you will be in a far worse place than you would have been if you had used traditional methods of challenging your ticket.
I have been reading Fight Your Traffic Ticket site and have a couple of comments.
I was issued two tickets at the same time, one for invalid left turn (Hwy 7 in Markham and Swansea). Another one, because the officer did not like my copy of registration documents.
This happened in last year (2015) April. I was going to pick up my son from Queen's University (Kingston) after his exams, and I guess I was too excited and was caught speeding 36km. The cop didn't say anything to me, just asked for my registration etc. Came back and handed me the ticket and…
Asking for input on whether I should hire someone or go to court myself.
Situation:
Was on a 60 road with a bit of traffic. Construction on the two right lanes leaving just a left turn lane and the centre lane. It was a green light so I accelerated (also writing down on my statement that I…
I got ticketed for a 72 in a 50 zone that I actually thought was a 60 zone as it was less than a km before.
I had an aggressive driver on my bumper so after tapping my brakes a few time I accelerated to merge into a different lane which was when I got caught in a speed trap.
I'm laughing my a$$ off at the scales of injustice in this town... This is a crazy story!
I'm cycling from home to work on Oct. 3 & get struck while traveling through my green light by a jeep turning right at his red light at the corner of Hwy101 & Brunette Road (Hollinger Park)!…
I was in court last week and the crown and judge agreed on a joint submittion that I plea guilty to dangerious driving. The judge commended me on the work I have done to improve myself and stated that there would be no prohibition on my drivers licence. He gave me a fine and one years probation…
Got a ticket for failure to obey sign. Essentially went straight on a right turn lane when there was a traffic blitz going south from Markham Main st past Hwy 7 east.
I received my notice of trial for July 17th but I assumed this was going to be a first appearance or is this the actual trial…
I've posted at this forum before under a different username a while back, which I unfortunately can't remember, and at that time the people who replied back were extremely helpful and for that I'm grateful.
Last night I was leaving Toronto driving north on University just north of Queens…
In early March I was driving in the Yonge & Churchil area. An officer said I failed to stop at a stop sign and ticketed me 110+3 demerits. While getting my license etc. I have multiple photocopy of my car ownership in my car, and that I thought I handed him the copy with the validation…
Hi, I am from Ontraio, Canada. I was using my friends car for moving some stuff around and was stopped by police and could not produce insurance slip. Got $65 ticket and paid it thinking not to make fuss about it. I know I made a mistake by not contesting it more so given that it was my first…