Quite frequently, I've seen Careless Driving charges in rear end collisions reduced to "Follow Too Close". But is this really a good deal? Sure you avoid the major conviction with 6 points, but you still get a conviction for 4 points. And in many cases, the only witness who could describe the driver's conduct is the other driver who may or may not have observed sufficient details through the rear view mirror. What does everyone else think? D.A.

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Reduction from Careless Driving: Good Deal or Bad Deal?

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Is a reduction to "Follow Too Close" from Careless Driving, a good deal (in the average case)?

Yes it is.
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No it isn't.
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Re: Reduction from Careless Driving: Good Deal or Bad Deal?

I've been wanting to do something like that for awhile but thinking more of a surveillance cam that I could leave in the car when parked (I've had my share of scrape and runs). Have you ever used the video in court? And is the speedometer visible?

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Not something I'll ever be concerned with :D

I've been wanting to do something like that for awhile but thinking more of a surveillance cam that I could leave in the car when parked (I've had my share of scrape and runs). Have you ever used the video in court? And is the speedometer visible?

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Re: Reduction from Careless Driving: Good Deal or Bad Deal?

It is, but I can't seem to get decent quality out of Youtube. Also, this tape has been overwritten about 20 times. Still good enough for fault evidence though. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6IjLWEMMgs I waited till minicam prices came down to my level ($230) before I could get one. There's a simple wingnut holding it in place (securely) so I can remove it easily. Now I feel very vulnerable driving without it. Never used in court yet. Cheap insurance though.

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... is the speedometer visible?

It is, but I can't seem to get decent quality out of Youtube. Also, this tape has been overwritten about 20 times. Still good enough for fault evidence though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6IjLWEMMgs

I waited till minicam prices came down to my level ($230) before I could get one. There's a simple wingnut holding it in place (securely) so I can remove it easily. Now I feel very vulnerable driving without it. Never used in court yet. Cheap insurance though.

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Re: Reduction from Careless Driving: Good Deal or Bad Deal?

I hit black ice E/B on Lakeshore right on the bridge that crosses the Don River @ 3am in 1989, scary stuff and over in a instant! Brand new Rz350 slid right through that intersection, while I stopped slidding right at the white line :lol:

I hit black ice E/B on Lakeshore right on the bridge that crosses the Don River @ 3am in 1989, scary stuff and over in a instant!

Brand new Rz350 slid right through that intersection, while I stopped slidding right at the white line :lol:

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Re: Reduction from Careless Driving: Good Deal or Bad Deal?

AH HA....ice is still clear......it's the colour beneath showing through :)

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ice frozen without many air bubbles trapped inside, making it transparent. Black ice takes the color of the material it lies on top of, often wet asphalt or a darkened pond. Its difficult-to-detect nature makes it a significant hazard to drivers, pedestrians, and sailors.

AH HA....ice is still clear......it's the colour beneath showing through :)

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Re: Reduction from Careless Driving: Good Deal or Bad Deal?

Well technically black is the absence of color or specifically, the absence of light. That is, black does not reflect or emit any light to the visual receptors in the eye. That's why you can't see black ice. But since we are so off topic: Bear, I concede, you win! :)

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AH HA....ice is still clear......it's the colour beneath showing through

Well technically black is the absence of color or specifically, the absence of light. That is, black does not reflect or emit any light to the visual receptors in the eye. That's why you can't see black ice. But since we are so off topic: Bear, I concede, you win! :)

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Re: Reduction from Careless Driving: Good Deal or Bad Deal?

IT EXISTS!!

IT EXISTS!!

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Re: Reduction from Careless Driving: Good Deal or Bad Deal?

Once again proving that any argument can be settled over a brewski. :-)

Once again proving that any argument can be settled over a brewski.:-)

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