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You can't escape Novice Driving Sanctions by delaying conviction and upgrading your license.

First strike is 30 days and second is still 90 days. The difference is the third strike. If you graduate before the third, you'll be suspended for another 90 days rather than starting from scratch.

Only way to avoid this in your scenario is if you're ...

Most provinces and some neighboring U.S. states will have reciprocal agreements with each other in one way or another.

What that means is some offences will be treated no different than if they happened inside your home province.

It depends on the offense. There's a list of offenses that can translate over from province to province. Not ...

If you're asking in regards to a potential ticket, they will never know who has access to your vehicle nor are you required to volunteer that information. It will never get that far anyways. They're not going to be that invested in you. They will charge you as the owner and move on to the next person.

Under most circumstances, anyone can use your ...

There are two ways to be charged for this particular offense. You're either charged as the driver or the owner.

To be charged as a driver, you'd almost certainly have to be pulled over at the scene. The officer would then be able to identify you and attach your license number to your ticket.

You can also be charged as the owner. The bus driver ...

So what should I do? The ticket hasn't been reduced yet, so are my odds of getting it reduced to maybe 15km/h over good? Is radar gun evidence flimsy in court?


The odds of having the ticket reduced are pretty good.

You're only really saving on the fine amount. Insurance is going to treat 27 and 15 the same. They don't care about demerit ...

Other than requesting a trial and hoping the officer doesn't show up, which is a long shot in itself, you don't exactly have much to go on.

As you seem to be already aware, you only need to be holding your phone for a conviction. They wont need to prove anything beyond that. So, it becomes a case of did you or did you not hold your phone.


will I even get a plea deal?

There has to be an equivalent charge that's lower if they're going to offer you a deal. In this particular ...

Yes, that can be some of it.

Because it's a rear end collision, the driver from the back is almost always entirely at fault. HTA requires you to always keep a safe distance between you and the vehicle in front.

That will play a role into any potential charge.

It's not that much different than an officer showing up to the scene.

Whether or not you'll be charged will depend on the evidence in front of them.

But yes, it's possible.

Insurance providers group all offenses into three categories. A conviction will either fall into the minor, major, or serious table. All offenses in a category will receive the same surcharge percentage.

Example: Minor (0-5%), Major (15%), Serious (100%).

In terms of insurance, it's best not to judge an offense on how it sounds on its own, but ...

Demerit points, for the most part, are meaningless. Novice drivers (G1,G2) have to worry about demerit points because there's a low bar for collecting points. Fully licensed drivers need to collect 15 points before they are suspended. Points expire 2 years from the day you receive your ticket, so you'd be back to zero points in 24 months.

In terms ...

This forum deals with the Ontario Highway Traffic Act. Alberta has the Traffic Safety Act, I believe. Traffic rules vary province to province.

That being said, I think we can handle most of your questions because they're not going to be all that different.

It's completely normal for an officer to not immediately pull you over. An officer, knowing ...

The speed would change after the posted sign, not before it.


I was at 70, not even 10 feet from the sign


I even looked at my speed as I passing the cop and it was at 60, but he tried telling me I was doing 70, which I know I most certainly was not.

If you're admittedly doing 70 before the sign, then the officer would be correct.

An ...

Just one more thing to add.

For insurance purposes, convictions are split up into three categories. Those are minor, major, and serious. These three categories have their own surcharge percentage. Everything that falls into one category will be issued the same surcharge for determining rates. Example, all minor offenses would be treated the same ...

Besides the 2 tickets, will she need to go to court?

She is only charged. She will still need to be convicted. This will be a whole conversation in itself depending how you proceed.

The 3 day suspension itself should not impact your rates. It's what they call an "administrative suspension." Insurance providers are not allowed to use them for ...

Does anyone has any clue that is this true?? HTA 170(12) Parking on roadway interfere with traffic is actually a bylaw and does not show on abstract. :evil:


Well no, you're still being charged under the Highway Traffic Act. I think I get what you're saying, which is probably something like:

"Is this charge the equivalent of a municipal bylaw ...

It's a bit difficult to follow.

Did your medical suspension end?

The bus driver would file a report. They do it all the time. The province provides them with a form specifically for them.

If the bus hadn't stopped and the driver was aware of this, they wouldn't file a report anyways.

A lot of municipalities are also now starting to retrofit their buses with cameras for this very purpose.

An officer has up to ...

Their version may vary from your own.

The bus would, at the very least, need to come to a stop.

Yes, it's possible they'll charge whoever the owner of the vehicle is. That may or may not be you, but a ticket could be issued.

It's extremely common.

If the spot was marked according to the regulations , there's not much you can do.

Obviously, the permit was not issued to you. The only other defense would be that as the driver, the vehicle is being used to pick up or transport the holder of the permit. Since the permit holder was not there, you don't really have anything in terms of a defense ...

If you're charged as the owner, the ticket follows your plate. They don't know who was driving nor would they need to in this particular scenario. If you manage to still owe money on it, they'll usually get you when you need to renew your stickers.

Your more common HTA ticket follows your license number. If you don't pay, they'll be able to ...

In terms of speed, stunt driving is no longer limited to 50km+.

7. Driving a motor vehicle at a rate of speed that is 40 kilometres per hour or more over the speed limit, if the speed limit is less than 80 kilometres per hour.

Since you were in a 50, anything 90+ would be considered stunt driving.

I don't know if they've made any changes to ...

The regulations changed regarding stunt driving recently.

Were you charged before or after July 1, 2021?

"Novice drivers with licences that would have expired between March 1, 2020, and December 31, 2022, will have until December 31, 2022, to complete testing to maintain or upgrade their licence."

It's possible they may have extended the three years also, but I can't give you an answer to that. You can ask at a Drivetest Centre.

If they have, you ...

If you apply within 3 years of your G2 license expiring, you can go through the process without waiting the mandatory waiting periods between moving up a class. (8 or 12 months for G1, 12 months for G2). How quick you get your license would only really depend on the nearest available test date.

If it's been more than 3 years, you start from the ...

I'm assuming this was recent.

Stunt driving today is not the same as it was just some months ago. The laws have changed recently.

Administrative (roadside) suspension has increased from 7 days to 30 days.
Impound increased from 7 days to 14 days.

The biggest issue back then was insurance. Automatic 100% increase if they don't boot you first ...

Impact on insurance is going to be the same whether its 15, 29, or 31.

Insurance providers don't calculate per km. It's all the same until you hit 50+.

They also don't care about points. Only the ministry uses points. Unless you're still a novice driver without a full license , points really don't matter all that much to begin with. They're ...

Speeding (Automated Speed Enforcement aka 'photo radar')
Red Light (Red Light Camera System)

There is also failing to stop for a school bus which wouldn't necessarily be mailed, but could be issued to the owner with no need to identify the driver.

Did you come to a complete stop?

If so, it's not illegal. If there is no barrier being used, you'd make a complete stop and proceed as long as it is safe to do so.

If you didn't stop, you weren't pulled over at the scene anyways. They're not pursuing this after the fact. It's not realistic. If you're being mailed a ticket, it's because you're ...

Immediately request a trial. You've pretty much already won.