Ontario Highway Traffic Act

I think we need to remember that the standard of proof in court is LESS than certainty; it's only "proof beyond a reasonable doubt".

In a nutshell, that's what I was saying.

I agree with your arguement, but the question remains: Why not provide the proof? If all the documentation is available, why not produce it? Would a simple computer screen ...

viper: the gun is effected by cosine law, same as traffic radar..... same goes for hardest shot in hockey, shoot at the gun directly = more accurate reading

Anywho, the transparentcy of the "entire" testing and calibration process could be improved and thus the "fishing" expeditions would end.

Well, Bear said it over there in another thread, the FCC/IC is in the manual............ why would the Crown not simply produce the manual, hell have the officer bring them into the courtroom. From what I see in the devices I use, the calibration sets forth a "few" calculations on which the entire measurement process is based. We have yet to see a ...

Damn Radar, you made me open the full editor, :D .

My full 2 cents, Ahem:

1. Any measuring device for trade is calibrated regularly by an external reference be it scales or pumps etc.
2. Machines used to assemble certain products, i.e. automobiles, also get regular calibrations.
3. These items may or may not have a self-calibration/confidence ...

Bear is ROTFL somewhere

You should still get disclosure but your 11b arguement is out the window.

you certain;y are well read Watcher........ keep up the references and some day you may be a moderator!

"I still think that the units should be held to the same standard that industry is held to. Personally, my opinion is that these devices should be governed by the Weights and Measurements Act. Why they're not is beyond me."

That would cost money........

This information is very very readily available,
- Industry Canada standard is printed in the radar manual


It may be on some manuals but definitely not on all... I have a Decatur Genesis-VP manual in front of me and while it has a nice FCC certification note in it, but there is nothing referring to Industry Canada certification.


The court is ...

If you would like to prove that your tires are in good repair, take some pictures now and save them for trial. Just about any paralegal could win this outright, I think you too could win it outright with a little knowledge. Hire the paralegal thou.

you were reported, nothing else. I wouldn't worry about this, if your plate has been "tagged" and an officer happens to notice you driving around, like you said, quite reasonably, then your "tag" will get removed from the system................... take it for what it is, an impatient driver who tried to use the system against you....

hwybear wrote:This information is very very readily available,
- Industry Canada standard is printed in the radar manual
- All calibration certificates are kept on file for each individual radar unit

So there is more to the offence being withdrawn than this request in the disclosure

Are you saying the ducks are not in a row?

Do yourself a favour and drop by in person...... rids you of the address problem

I agree with Stanton in this case, and might i say well worded sir!