Ontario Highway Traffic Act

What about accuracy of speed if adequate testing was not performed at distance of over 500m? There seems to be plenty of case law to support that even where the driver was the sole vehicle on the road.

500m is a very long distance.....and it could be problematic. You will need to impress upon the JP that sweep error is possible at this distance ...

I think what you are getting at is this charge only at issue when 2 vehicles are "travelling" on a road. Read the section your daughter was charged under, you can find it online. Does the incident sound like one of the descriptors listed? Then try looking for the two references in CANLII. Google it, comes right up.

Agreed with Stanton............................


Somewhere hwybear falls off his chair laughing.............

I see lawn mowers on the shoulder all the time..... got lights on it?

All good points.

And you're right, HTA128, that the officer's duty (as he considered it) was to bounce me before I tried to run. I don't blame him for that; he couldn't have known what my intentions were. It's just a very bitter pill to swallow to know that if I hadn't been caught, I would have decelerated to a reasonable speed at the end of the ...

Please refrain from typing in CAPS.

As far as your ticket goes, the charging company will need to prove you were on their property.

You may want to talk to a legal rep in the area. In the long run it may be cheaper.

That bothers me.

If an officer begins pursuit of a speeding vehicle, I would agree that it's appropriate to overtake and force the vehicle to the shoulder IF there's some indication that the driver doesn't intend to stop. My objection in my case is that the officer who pursued me didn't run his siren, so I didn't know he was there--if I had heard ...

1. If cop shows up what should I do before trail- talk to him to reduce further?-------> You caught a break, take the fine.

2. Will I have a chance to reduce further with JP? What option do I have here?------> Slim to nil the JP will help, unless you can prove the officer was wrong

3. If cop does not show up what do I do?-------> If the officer ...

ask for a typed version

The info you have is for slightly older models and it used to be the norm, i.e +/- 1 MPH, or 2 KMH.... There are some models of moving radar that are capable of measuring speed as well as estimating distance to target. These units, due in large part to the calc'ns required offered a error margin of +/- 3.2 KMH, however according to my sources ...

hwybear wrote:

mathers wrote: there is still a margin of error of up to 2 km/h for any speed mesuring device

fyi, that is not accurate information

^^ depends on the speed measuring equipment being used^^

You can get your info on the margin of error after disclosure

We are living in the age of digital video. HD 720p and 1080p CRYSTAL CLEAR Video. If a picture is worth a thousand words, then a video is worth a million.


I believe it's because they think we also live in the age of Photoshop... :D

I like that response but, it's hard to photoshop a video, plus you, well usually you for our cases, have to ...

If this happened close to your home I would suggest you select option #3, which is the trial option. After you get your court date you can then request disclosure and or first attendance. In your disclosure request, you can ask for a copy of the officer's notes, which is the bulk of the evidence against you. Review the notes and look for ...

The attitude of the officer has nothing to do with your ticket. You will have to plead it either at Frist Attendance or trial. Either way you should be able to beat it, if it does not get tossed first. Just explain the situation the same as you did here. A written record, your words, wouldn't hurt.