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http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2008/06/10/street-racing.html?ref=rss#socialcomments

I've been reading a lot of articles and websites and the above site seems to represent the common public opinion. It's quite clear that the vast majority of opinionated people are against this law. I think it's unwise for Mr. Fantino to challenge public ...

Are you saying there wasn't even an emergency or reason to be on the shoulder other than to enforce this law?

If that's the case, it's an example of the police CAUSING an unnecessarily dangerous situation for hundreds of motorists. I'm sure it will be publicized as an educational exercise though.

Perhaps the solution is to just drive FAST in the ...

OPP Const. Dave Woodford says what happens in court is not his concern. "My concern is getting those people off the road."

Statements like this should really concern the general population. Whether you have kids, employees, spouses, etc. you will probably be (or know someone who is) affected one day by some gung-ho cop, like this one, who seems ...

casper wrote:Here is a good article by Jim Kenzie..

http://wheels.ca/Columnists/article/248098

Followup:

Julian Fantino's reply:
http://wheels.ca/article/250631

Public Opinions:
http://www.wheels.ca/article/254338

Hmmm... I only have enough money for ONE book...
http://www.amazon.ca/Duty-Life-Cop-Juli ... 155263874X
or...
http://www.polizei144.com/index.asp?Pag ... &ProdID=44

(decisions, decisions)

hwybear wrote:... real life has nothing to do with TV shows or movies...

Oh, I can't believe he would hurt Sgt. Woolley's feeling that way!

Just before court opens, the Crown will usually have everyone line up and ask what their intentions are (one at a time). If you can see that the officer is there, you could suggest that you would like to plea bargain based on the fact that your actions affected no other motorists or pedestrians, and you were pretty sure you entered safely on a ...

In no way do I mean to challenge what you say... I'm just confused because it seems to clash with the wording in the Provincial Offences Act.

If I understand the Act correctly, you have 30 days to lay a charge by way of a Part I certificate (usually a ticket at the side of the road).

PART I
COMMENCEMENT OF PROCEEDINGS BY CERTIFICATE OF OFFENCE ...

So the Crown refused to drop the charge (they rarely do). Now you have to go to trial and fight for dismissal on the grounds that the information on the face of the ticket has deprived you of some right. The crown must prove the correct date and place of the offense (within reason). The date will likely be correct on the officers notes, but it's ...

We should also ban those obnoxious train horns at rural railway crossings, too. After all, everyone should just "look", right? Oh, and those stupid beeping back-up signals on big trucks. I mean, how hard can it be to see the damn thing moving!!

Yah, you guys are right on this one. Quieter is safer

... Thank you Mr. Smarty Clown :D
My friends on the "Smarty Clown" thread are offended and demand an apology.
http://www.clown-forum.com/clown-cafe/2748-smarty-clowns.html

However, the charge is still not "Impede Traffic" as previously mentioned... HTA 132 (1) charge is "Unncessary Slow Driving"
(insert Simpson's Nelson's voice... HAHA ...

To put North American driving in perspective, you need to see how they drive in India:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2BAnyISH9w

It's complicated...

I saw a documentary about this subject. Some experts stated that electric cars are "good to go" RIGHT NOW, but the economy is so closely tied to the "internal combustion / gas powered car" industry, that to allow the invasion of maintenance free, all-electric cars would be more than our current society could manage. The HUGE ...

I would think that IF you are suggesting what charge was more appropriate, and attempting to bamboozle a person with your attempt on legal BS, you would at least look up things and know that there is no such charge as "Impede Traffic" in the HTA.

132. (1) No motor vehicle shall be driven on a highway at such a slow rate of speed as to impede or ...

I think this type of defense is used to dispute the speed listed on the ticket. You are challenging the listed speed alone, not trying to establish the "true" speed.

You are arguing that the Crown must prove the actual speed is what is written on the ticket, PERIOD.

Not sure if it will work... Lots of info here:
http://www.radardetector.net ...

Different Insurance companies have different policies. In my case, I had one speeding ticket on my record which was allowed without a rate increase. A couple years later, I got stopped and ticketed because I couldn't find my insurance slip (non-moving violation). My insurance DOUBLED!!!! This from the same company I had been with for 20 years ...

When you deal with the prosecutor, try to negotiate a deal that will save HIM the most time. Perhaps explain to him that you plan to ask the JP for a Continuance while you seek legal council, but you would be willing to plea guilty to a lesser charge to avoid a trial, thus saving both parties preparation time.

In my case, I had three tickets (from ...

It's absolutely clear to me that the intent of the stunt and speed laws was to control competition "AT SPEED"... NOT ACCELERATION. No where does it describe any offense as it relates to acceleration. There is big difference between speed and acceleration. Hard acceleration can be accomplished without breaking any speed laws.

To me, a couple kids ...

casper wrote:What if I feel like speeding(fast) up to the speed limit witout squealing tires, would that get my car impounded?.

(clicky) http://www.ontariohighwaytrafficact.com/topic362.html

"IF IT WERE ME" (but it ain't)...

I would wait 13 days from the offense date then file a not-guilty. I would wait for my court date to arrive in the mail. After 30 days have passed from the offense date, the officer can not write you a new ticket. He would have to proceed under the rules of a part III summons, which means a Justice of the Peace ...

Being confused, I'm at least in the majority! Not one of my friends or family members really knows what the hay is going on. OK, so a 'stunt' may not be 'racing' but the penalty is the same and people are pissed about that.

If it's his word against yours, you will lose. The cop is considered "an officer of the court" which means his recollections will be regarded as fact unless an independent witness can be produced to testify against him.

If your disclosure doesn't arrive in time, you could motion for dismissal on those grounds. If the Crown request for a ...

Yet another great article "King Kenzie"! Surely, we're related somehow, LOL.

I could really identify with his account of nudging up the speed just to qualify as "a racer", LOL. I don't know why I now get a cheap thrill out of touching on 130kph on some loney back road, or read "152" for a split second on the 401, for no other reason than to ...

I may have been half asleep when I heard this. Did I hear that Dalton McGuinty is in Italy trying to sell Ontario as good choice to build a new North American plant??

I suspect Alpha will just laugh at him. McGuinty does realize Alpha Romeo is a Sports Car manufacturer, correct? Ontario is the LAST place a performance car company would want to ...

OF COURSE IT WAS

Careless Driving is intended to apply to drivers' who's actions would be considered inadvertent or negligent. I wouldn't think this section applies to your situation. You conducted yourself in a purposeful way. No negligence was present. There are other sections of the HTA that would apply to your scenario. They weren't used. The officer was being ...

The insurance companies will ultimately determine fault for their own purposes, irregardless of any police charges.

It's not likely any fault will be laid against the other driver, and a Judge would likely state that your son chose to proceed despite insufficient visibility, so he's at fault.

It might be a good time to discuss this with your ...

( 18 ) Every driver approaching a traffic control signal showing a circular red indication and facing the indication shall stop his or her vehicle and shall not proceed until a green indication is shown. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 144 ( 18 ).

This section describes "approaching a Red Light". I'm not sure but perhaps you could also argue that you did ...

Thats very good.
But if i had dropped my waterbottle ...
This would not be "fumbling with something" am i right?...

I agree with your strategy. I'm just concerned that the JP may disregard your "safety" issue since YOUR the one who created the threat in the first place (by dropping your water bottle on the floor).

There's no doubt that this is ...

IF THIS WERE ME.... (doesn't mean it would work)....

I would ask the Prosecutor if he would consider dropping the Turn ticket in return for a guilty plea on the license ticket. He may see no personal advantage to this offer as you really have no case on the license charge. If he refuses, perhaps spice up the offer by adding an extra $40 on the ...

Careless driving
130. Every person is guilty of the offence of driving carelessly who drives a vehicle or street car on a highway without due care and attention or without reasonable consideration for other persons using the highway and on conviction is liable to a fine of not less than $200 and not more than $1,000 or to imprisonment for a term ...