Three-wheeled Motorcycles....

Figured I would look this up....as I have seen a few:

A motor tricycle may have either have:

one front wheel and two rear wheels, or

two front wheels and one rear wheel, or

be a two-wheeled motorcycle with a sidecar.

Since the four-seat motor tricycle is a new federal provision, the HTA prohibits motor tricycles from having more than two seating positions unless the vehicle was originally manufactured with four seats and bears a compliance label indicating its conformity with federal regulations for motor tricycles.

Ontarios HTA requires that each passenger seating position on a motorcycle have an operable footrest

A driver of a motor tricycle must be at least 16 years old and have a valid M1, M2, or, an M2 or M licence with an M condition. The M condition is added to your licence if you pass the Level One or Level Two road test using a three-wheeled motorcycle. The M condition means you are licensed to drive a three-wheeled motorcycle only.

Anyone with an "M condition" specific to three-wheeled motorcycles is not authorized to operate a two-wheeled motorcycle.

The vehicle must be insured, registered and have a valid licence plate. The operator must wear an approved motorcycle helmet.

this is the MTO site with all the info...highlights are above

So that's an "M" license with an "M" condition? Man who thought that up.

Good to know, though. I've been considering a Spyder as a winter-capable bike...once I get enough money.

I have one with a GM designation so I can if I can find one.?

Cheers

Viper1

viper1 wrote:I have one with a GM designation so I can if I can find one.?

Cheers

Viper1

You would need a GM with a condition of M.

then I am good.

If I every find one I will give it a ride.

Cheers

Viper1

I was so close to buying a spyder in 07, went with two wheels instead

Viper, call Hans at www.snowcity.com , I am sure he could get you on one for a demo!

tks

Viper1

hwybear wrote: Q. What do I need to drive a motor tricycle?

A driver of a motor tricycle must be at least 16 years old and have a valid M1, M2, or, an M2 or M licence with an M condition. The M condition is added to your licence if you pass the Level One or Level Two road test using a three-wheeled motorcycle. The M condition means you are licensed to drive a three-wheeled motorcycle only.

Anyone with an "M condition" specific to three-wheeled motorcycles is not authorized to operate a two-wheeled motorcycle.

The vehicle must be insured, registered and have a valid licence plate. The operator must wear an approved motorcycle helmet.

this is the MTO site with all the info...highlights are above

http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/ ... q.shtml#a1

Apologies if I'm resurrecting a dead topic, but I have owned a sidecar-capable BMW R60, and always thought my GM licence would be good if I were to be fool enough to blow my money on getting another, this time with a sidecar mounted. Now the MTO has me confused. The site hwybear refers to (thanks!) says exactly what he has posted: it's there as Question 18. But, just when you've decided it's merely another nugget of bureaucratic stupidity that we have to live by, MTO goes on to say this:

MTO wrote: 22. What kind of motorcycles can I drive with an M drivers licence?

* With an M drivers licence, the operator can drive a two-wheeled motorcycle, motor tricycle, limited-speed motorcycle and a moped.

I.e., any kind of motorcycle. And they also add the following:

MTO wrote: 26. If I hold a licence with an M condition that only allows me to drive a motor tricycle, what do I need to do to upgrade to a full unrestricted motorcycle licence?

* To upgrade to a full unrestricted M licence, one that will allow you to drive a full-speed two-wheeled motorcycle, you must do the following: [blah, blah, blah]

Leaving aside the grammatical error (they probably mean "allows me to drive only a motor tricycle") that appears to say that the full M licence is unrestricted, no? The M condition is a restriction you get on your M if you choose to do the motorcycle test on a three-wheeler... I think!

Any chance I may be right?

I certainly would agree with you Proper1.

I have been speaking up thru the channels to get it clarified...will advise when info known.

M condition/restriction means you passed your motorcycle road tests using a 3 wheeled motorcycle which means you are NOT allowed to ride a two wheeled motorcycle with a M condition license.

If you have a M license this means you passed your motorcycle road tests using a two wheeled motorcycle which allows you to ride a two or three wheeled motorcycle.

The reason the MTO has done this is to ensure that a rider with balance issues can't complete their motorcycle road tests with a 3 wheeled motorcycle then ride around on a two wheeled motorcycle they were never actually tested on to see if they are safe to be allowed to ride on roads with.