Exactly that. I was expected to be able to give the basics of the incident from memory but could refer to notes for specific details like verbatim statements, times, etc etc.
Re: Speeding in Algonquin
Re: Speeding in Algonquin
argyll wrote:
Exactly that. I was expected to be able to give the basics of the incident from memory but could refer to notes for specific details like verbatim statements, times, etc etc.
And what would happen if there was something you didn't recall from memory, didn't note, but the defendant/representative is bringing up? Is it then a matter of your word against there?
Re: Speeding in Algonquin
So looking at the disclosure, there is no mention in the officers notes of the information you gave.
So for somebody who is really good at cross-examination, this could be a good thing and they might be able to bring in reasonable doubt to officers testimony over losing sight of vehicle for several minutes. The downside is that you do not know how the officer will testify when asked about these events. If officer agrees then great, but what if the officer says "no I never lost sight", well now you have a problem because if you and girlfriend testify to refute his testimony, you must answer truthfully while on the stand so all prosecutor has to do is ask her "were you speeding?" and she has to say yes and you have pretty much lost.
Re: Speeding in Algonquin
I think a better strategy would be to continue your cross along the lines of getting the officer to describe the road, bend etc to see if you could introduce doubt as to the 'did lose sight' testimony. Officers may make errors but don't generally lie on the stand.
When I was instructing at the Academy, I always stressed that it is not an officer's job to get a conviction, just to relate the facts. If the facts result in someone being acquitted then so be it.
Certainly in any office I've worked someone deliberately giving false information on the stand would be a big - a HUGE - deal and that officer's career would be very short. I do read on here from time to time that officers lied on the stand but I suspect that is more that their testimony simply doesn't match exactly to the recollection of the accused. Two people being shown the same scenario and asked about it seconds later will recall it slightly differently. Lying on the stand is a big accusation. Has it happened ? Yes. Will it happen again ? Sadly I suspect yes. But it is very very far from the norm.
Re: Speeding in Algonquin
Many thanks! Will let you know how it goes!
Similar Topics
-
-
- Stunt and Speeding, potential for 11b?
- Posted in Stunt Driving
- By duog on
- Replies: 3
-
-
-
- need advice regarding speeding ticket defense
- Posted in Exceeding the speed limit by 16 to 29 km/h
- By underscore11 on
- Replies: 2
-
-
-
- HELP: Stunt Driving (117 km/hr in a 40) + Speeding sec.128
- Posted in Stunt Driving
- By BRBrown97 on
- Replies: 24
-
-
-
- Excessive Speeding in Quebec
- Posted in Stunt Driving
- By Tyler31622 on
- Replies: 9
-
-
-
- Speeding Ticket 30 km in 50 km limit but charged 15km over.
- Posted in Speed Traps
- By anon12345 on
- Replies: 6
-
Featured Topics
130 in 100 zone, 5 hours away
I got a speeding ticket on the 401 by Cornwall. The officer said I was going 140 initially then dropped it to 130 (for the record I don't believe for a second I was going 140, that's way faster than I would ever intentionally drive). I filled out the info on the back of the notice to request a…
Something feels fishy with my stunt driving charge
I was recently charged with stunt driving on a 60kmh road. When I was pulled over, the officer told me I was going almost 100kmh (still 40kmh above the limit) but was charging me for stunt driving because I accelerated quickly from an intersection on an empty road (in a straight line). I know…
disobey sign staines rd & steeles ave
Hi everyone,
what to do about a an illegal right turn onto steeles from staines rd
got the ticket around october of last year
put it to trial
so there is a big mess of cars at this intersection and I see a cop outside standing directing traffic with a huge row of cars pulled over to the side, through…
Pursuit rating of non-domestic vehicles
Are any non-domestic vehicles "pursuit-rated" in North America? Also have the Michigan State Police (this is relevant because apparently they have the most accepted selection/testing process) tested any of them to see if they meet their criteria? Just curious...
Quebec also has "Street Racing" legislation
Ottawa, Canada (AHN) - Beginning Tuesday, or April Fool's Day 2008, fines on Quebec drivers caught overspeeding will be doubled. It is not only the money penalty that will go up, but also demerit points.
The new law, Bill 42, is similar to Ontario's street racing rule. It stipulates fines for…
Speeding - what should the set fine and total payable be?
Hi,
A friend got a ticket Jan. 9th of this year for doing 110 kph in a 90 kph zone, so 20 over.
What should the set fine and total payable read?
It's confusing to me, as the prescribed fine under HTA s.128 is different than the set fine enumerated by the Chief Justice of the Ontario Court of Justice.
Wh…
First speeding ticket, OPP officer claims 40km/h on 401.
An OPP officer ticketed me claiming I was going 40km/h over the limit (140km/km) on my way home with a few friends on the 401. This is my first ever speeding offense. Although I am sure I was over the limit, I am almost certain that I was not going 40 over, more realistically closer to 30 over. The…
168 in 100 zone. 400
Hi Guys,
Yesterday night I was charged for stunt driving (excess over 50km/h) and I have a few inquiries. I'm sure you've all heard the same story, but the unmarked cop in an SUV was tailing me for a good 2-3 minutes as I was travelling 120~135 km/h. Then as he came close I decided to boot it up…
Disobey stop sign - fail to stop
I've been reading this site while waiting for my court date. My court date came in 2 weeks ago, and it is for August 22, 2011.
Brief first, than charge.
The Brief
Leaving my house to go to friends going away party.
Exit drive way, drive about 2/10s of a kilometer to stop sign. This is a stop sign I…
Received 3 demerit points in Quebec on zero tolerance
I had a speeding ticket in May 2013 which brought me to 9 demerit points out of 15. I received a letter and had to attend an interview. Due to a history of speeding tickets and a previous interview a few years prior, the interviewer decided to put me on zero tolerance for a year. Meaning if I…