After 40 years of driving accident free and no traffic violations (not even a parking ticket) I made the mistake of going to get some gas after having a few drinks. I realized my mistake and immediately turned to go home and some cop stopped me for no reason. Probably he wanted to look closer at a car he couldn't afford in a million years. He said is was a RIDE stop. BS. Anyway I was naive, hired an incompetent lawyer, pled guilty and paid the price. A few months into my disqualification, I had an emergency at work, and had to drive in. It seriously was a matter of life and death. Coming home, a cop ran my plate and I was caught driving disqualified. Fancy, shinny cars seem to get their eye. This time I had an excellent lawyer who got me off with a driving while suspended charge, not driving disqualified, so no addtional criminal record, or heavy fine or jail. Just 6 more months suspension. Sorry for the long story, however my question is as follows: The first notice from the MTO for the DUI was that I would have to take the rehab course (I did that) and have a vehicle immobilizer installed. The second notice from the MTO for driving while suspended says that my license is suspended and I will get it back on a certain date. It says that if it is printed at the top that I have to do the rehab course, or that I have to have a vehicle immobilizer, I need to do these things. However, nothing IS printed. So, from anyone's experience, does the second notice superceed the first? In other words when I get my license back from being suspended (not disqualified) will I have to have the vehicle immobilizer installed? It is not that I care to drink and drive again..I never will..and except for a few times 40 years ago in my youth, never did drive intoxicated. I rarely drink anyway. The issue I have is with some bozo in a muffler shop installing some device into my vehicle's electrics and buggering it up. That would be worse that anything the courts could throw at me. Thanks for your assistance. James.
A 1-year licence suspension for drunk driving is perfectly fair. In many US states, you would have gone to jail for the first offence. Some states don't even bother with an ignition interlock, they just confiscate your vehicle. You call this a police state? Try drunk driving in a place like Saudi Arabia and watch what happens. What happened to you with your drunk driving conviction is the same as for any other first-time drunk driver in Ontario. Now, if we really were "losers," you wouldn't really feel the need to come back and continue responding, would you? You can brag about how much money you have, but none of us care. Even if money was the only thing that mattered in life, there's no way to verify it anyway, so it's just another anonymous rant on the internet. It's a pissing contest most people would've left behind in high school. You knew how much you drank before you got in your car. The car would still be in the same spot, with the same amount of gas, and the gas station the same distance away, had you waited until you were sober. That was your choice. No one forced you to drive. You did have a certain amount of help given to you here, that is, until you started lashing out at the justice system and the police and everybody else.
A 1-year licence suspension for drunk driving is perfectly fair. In many US states, you would have gone to jail for the first offence. Some states don't even bother with an ignition interlock, they just confiscate your vehicle. You call this a police state? Try drunk driving in a place like Saudi Arabia and watch what happens. What happened to you with your drunk driving conviction is the same as for any other first-time drunk driver in Ontario.
Now, if we really were "losers," you wouldn't really feel the need to come back and continue responding, would you? You can brag about how much money you have, but none of us care. Even if money was the only thing that mattered in life, there's no way to verify it anyway, so it's just another anonymous rant on the internet. It's a pissing contest most people would've left behind in high school.
You knew how much you drank before you got in your car. The car would still be in the same spot, with the same amount of gas, and the gas station the same distance away, had you waited until you were sober. That was your choice. No one forced you to drive. You did have a certain amount of help given to you here, that is, until you started lashing out at the justice system and the police and everybody else.
* The above is NOT legal advice. By acting on anything I have said, you assume responsibility for any outcome and consequences. *
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"Ignorant" - lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated. PS I just thought I'd mention that even though I don't currently own an overpriced car, I sure do enjoy being able to drive the car I have! :lol:
"Ignorant" - lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated.
PS I just thought I'd mention that even though I don't currently own an overpriced car, I sure do enjoy being able to drive the car I have!
. Hey Drinking and driving is a social disease and a terrible crime. It is unacceptable and there is no excuse for it. What if you put a bullet on someone's head and then go about saying that you never touch a gun before and that you didn't mean it. Do the crime, do the time. And what does a flashy car have anything to do with drinking and driving? Actually it could have been worst. A police officer recently got a 15-month driving suspension and $1,500 fine. Now she is facing charges of discreditable conduct under the Police Services Act and, if found guilty, she may be subject to an increased penalty of demotion or dismissal. http://www.thespec.com/article/753953 And yes; you got a pretty rotten deal. In cases like yours -if what you say is true- a good lawyer would have negotiated a careless driving charge. But then again, maybe your lawyer was jealous about your beautiful car too and hence the result. :wink: Cheers. .
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Drinking and driving is a social disease and a terrible crime. It is unacceptable and there is no excuse for it. What if you put a bullet on someone's head and then go about saying that you never touch a gun before and that you didn't mean it.
Do the crime, do the time.
And what does a flashy car have anything to do with drinking and driving?
Radar Identified wrote:
A 1-year licence suspension for drunk driving is perfectly fair.
... What happened to you with your drunk driving conviction is the same as for any other first-time drunk driver in Ontario.
Actually it could have been worst. A police officer recently got a 15-month driving suspension and $1,500 fine.
Now she is facing charges of discreditable conduct under the Police Services Act and, if found guilty, she may be subject to an increased penalty of demotion or dismissal.
And yes; you got a pretty rotten deal. In cases like yours -if what you say is true- a good lawyer would have negotiated a careless driving charge. But then again, maybe your lawyer was jealous about your beautiful car too and hence the result.
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