Ontario. obtained disclosure in Sept 2013, on summons of not having car insurance. ( i had insurance, 4 officers involved of which 2 i talked with 1 of the others issued summons ??) Prosecutor tells me to get "Certified Letter" from my auto insurer regading date, time, car etc. Call up insurer explain what i need, rep says no problem, emails to me a standard Automobile Claims Experience, (ive told insurance rep exactly what is needed re: car make, model, date, time VIN.., he attaches additional page) Nothing signed, no insurer rep name, total garbage. Second call days later to insurer, talk to someone higher up, explain I need Certified Letter. Insurance person mails me letter, has all details requested, person name, dept, signature, phone #car info, date, time. I give letter to police officer named in disclodure (per prosecutor instruction "to investigate letter"), officer says to obtain "Certified Letter" but cannot elaborate on what is contained, meant by Certified Letter. I call up and talk to local prosecutor, he has no clue what a Certified Letter (car insurance) is., says to bring original, or photo copy of signed insurer letter to Oct 28/13 court, discuss beforehand and ??? . ( My follow up to insurer has yet to be replied., not holding my breath on them ) So my question, request to the Board., Does anyone know exactly what is contained, meant by a "Certified Letter" from car insurer.
Certified Letter re: Car Insurance
Re: Certified Letter re: Car Insurance
I'm not sure what the police are after, unless maybe they want a notarized letter from the insurer. Either way that is odd. I would forget about dealing with the police on this one, bring the letter you've got to your court date and talk to the prosecutor. From what the prosecutor told you it sounds as if they will likely be willing to drop the no insurance charge if you bring them the signed letter from your insurance company stating that you had insurance coverage at the time the summons was issued.
Re: Certified Letter re: Car Insurance
thanks for inference, suggestion., however again ... police has to reply to prosecutir in Certified Letter
give letter to police officer named in disclodure (per prosecutor instruction "to investigate letter"),
- highwaystar
- Sr. Member

- Posts: 380
- Joined: Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:46 pm
-
Posting Awards
Re: Certified Letter re: Car Insurance
Why are you doing the prosecution's job? If you have proof that you had insurance, then just let the PROSECUTOR/POLICE work it out. Don't waste too much time on this. Show up in court; give your proof to the prosecutor and if they don't drop the charge, then request a trial. They'll quickly fix the issue themselves. If not, the JP/Judge will acquit you. Stop worrying about this if you've got the proof.
-
OPS Copper
- Sr. Member

- Posts: 355
- Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:06 pm
-
Posting Awards
Re: Certified Letter re: Car Insurance
Insurance charge is reverse onus. Meaning they have to prove they had insurance.
The reason something needs to be certified is people will print out all kinds of letters on their home computer and bring it in. (I have seen this happen).
Being it is a 5k fine you want to make sure you have what the courts will accept. If not you could walk out with a 5k fine. It is pretty simple. I testify that I stopped and believed that the driver who was the owner was not insured and could not produce proof. That is all that is needed for a conviction. The driver then has to provide the proof of insurance and it has to be in a form that they courts will accept.
Like others have said find out from the prosecutor what they require and bring it. I will never take proof as once I lay the charge it is the prosecutors responsibility to deal with it not mine.
OPS
Similar Topics
-
-
- Do radars need certified calibration
- Posted in General Talk
- By bad10r on
- Replies: 5
-
-
-
- Letter informing vehicle owner that car was seen speeding
- Posted in General Talk
- By ynotp on
- Replies: 5
-
-
-
- A open letter!
- Posted in General Talk
- By gullyfourmyle on
- Replies: 29
-
-
-
- Letter to the Ontario Legislature
- Posted in General Talk
- By gullyfourmyle on
- Replies: 16
-
-
-
- Wrong Name on Court Date Letter
- Posted in General Talk
- By Shuen on
- Replies: 2
-
-
-
- Court Letter
- Posted in General Talk
- By inbini on
- Replies: 3
-
-
-
- Extension Letter
- Posted in Courts and Procedure
- By akarimov on
- Replies: 2
-
-
-
- Got a letter in the mail dont know what it means
- Posted in General Talk
- By Trymysoup on
- Replies: 3
-
-
-
- Owner Notification in writing of Vehicle Impoundment Letter
- Posted in Stunt Driving
- By HTANub on
- Replies: 4
-
-
-
- Didn't receive letter after Early Resolution regarding court
- Posted in General Talk
- By alygator on
- Replies: 8
-
-
-
-
Car Plate not attached to car (unathorized plates to the car
- Posted in Other Ontario Provincial Acts Related to Traffic
- By jeet on
- Replies: 1
-
-
-
-
- Right of way-Car from Crescent or a car from parking lot
- Posted in General Talk
- By johnchow101 on
- Replies: 1
-
-
-
- Rear ended car after that car was cut off
- Posted in Following too closely
- By drivingcanuck on
- Replies: 3
-
-
-
- Who is at fault if a car backs up into a car turning right?
- Posted in Backing on a highway
- By WaterlooResident on
- Replies: 2
-
-
-
- Can an unlicensed/uninsured car be towed by another car?
- Posted in General Talk
- By ttabyss on
- Replies: 9
-
-
-
- Car #3 in a 5 car pileup - got hit with careless driving.
- Posted in Careless Driving
- By justadude on
- Replies: 7
-
-
-
-
- no Insurance & plates not authorized for the car
- Posted in General Talk
- By kbarakat on
- Replies: 1
-
-
-
- Insurance valid when buying a used car?
- Posted in Compulsory Automobile Insurance Act
- By cruzmisl on
- Replies: 5
-
-
-
- Car towed for "no insurance"
- Posted in Compulsory Automobile Insurance Act
- By gary62 on
- Replies: 2
-
Featured Topics
fight stop sign
I got ticket for failing to stop at stop sign in Toronto. i heard that the police officer must see the stop line, if there is one, from where he was sitting. That is exactly my case, Is it a strong case? If so do i need a picture to show that there is a stop line and a picture to show that he could not see the stop line from where he was sitting?
Any help would be appreciated
Disobey stop sign, stop signs on both sides of intersection?
I got a ticket, Disobey stop sign, sec 136.1.a on dec 6th
I made a left in an intersection and was pulled over by a police officer in an unmarked car who had been sitting down the road. A classic fishing hole situation. I was genuinely surprised when he stopped me and told me I went through a stop sign without even slowing down. I know to shut up and be polite and take the ticket. I…
After accident, the police gave me a Careless Driving ticket
I'm having a big issue right now.
Yesterday morning, I rear-ended someone. I was going the speed limit. The sun was directly in front of me and it blinded my windshield and my eyes. At the same time, the person in front of me stopped/slowed down (also due to the sun). I started to slow down but didn't stop and I hit them since I couldn't see anything. I was not driving too close initially. I…
T-boned a limo - optical illusion
I was driving in the county at night and hit a limousine stretched out side ways across the road. The limo had its lights on and had side lighting as well. The police officer charged me with careless driving because it was "fully lit up".
It took me to the next day to figure out what had happened - what I remember made no sense. What I had run across was a "false visual reference" illusion.
The…
68 over ..
I was reading the other topic in this fourm.
I was on hwy 37 trying to make my girlfriends ganadmas mass and I live an hour away and I had an hour to get there so I was going fast but not 50 over untill some idiot got on my tail soo close that I was to concentrated on him that I kept going faster untill I got pulled over at 147 on an 80 km hwy.
I alreaddy lost 3 points and this time was just the…
Failure to stop. 136(1)(b)
Hello, got stopped today for rolling a stop sign. Ticket says failure to stop, but quotes hta 1361b.
Doesn't 1361b mean failure to yield?
Is this a fatal error? Or could it be amended at trial. How can I prepare a defence if I don't know if I'm defending the failure to stop or the failure to yield?
OOps! The police officer forgot to return my documents...
After he was providing me with a ticket for failure to obey to the stop sign (I am pretty sure I stopped but less than 3 seconds recommended by my driver ed. instructor), I know everybody say that..as an excuse.
Then he stopped me again to return the documents.
Any advice and feed back would be really appreciated.
Do I have a case where I could win?
Proof for advanced green
Hello, hoping here someone can help.
Can you get evidence for whether someone had an advanced green at an intersection? My dad was making a right turn on a red (after stopping) into a plaza parking lot. He got hit by someone making a left turn from the opposite lane. The driver told the officer called to the collision that he had an advance green. My dad said he came out of nowhere which makes me…
Failing to stop for a school bus
So i was driving on Eglinton Avenue East near Rosemount Ave.

The school bus was on the the curb on the opposite side of the road while i was travelling on the middle lane of the three-laned Eglinton Avenue East (five lanes apart plus a raised median island seperating the traffic)

I could not see the school bus as my view of the bus was being obstructed by the cars in front of me and on my left hand…
If/when do I have to disclose my evidence for a trial?
Lots of good information on getting disclosure from the Crown here.
Now, I am just wondering if I will be relying upon evidence of my own at trial... do I have to voluntarily send this material to the Crown in a reasonable time before the trial, or only if they request disclosure from me?
Thanks!
Ticket for speeding on highway 401 (125 km/h)
Hey,
This morning I had an exam for university. I was studying the entire night and i wanted to catch like maybe 1-2 hours of sleep before the exam so i went to sleep. I woke up like 5 hrs after and realize that I was about to miss my exam. I still could have made it so I asked my dad for his car since I was in a huge rush and he gave it to me.
I went on the highway and I was going at 135 km/h but…
30 over i need help he said he hade me on radar he was going
the police officer was in in the opesite oncumming lane he was fallowing another car so close that i was not even able to see his cruser till he was buy he said that i was going 111 in a 80 he said he hade me on radar he only asked for me drivers licencs and never asked for my insurence so on the ticket there no insurence dose enyone think i can beat this i wana take it to cort becuse he was…
New Moderator Board Approval
Here we grow again!
We have a volunteer that volunteered to help us out in forum moderation.
However, we would like our visitors to approve him here.
Please vote Yay! if you are OK with BelSlySTi becoming a moderator, or vote Nay! if you are not (I do, however, expect a post or a PM as to why).
Both me and admin are OK with him, however, we will not participate in this vote. Approval should be…
Plead guilty when not. Can I appeal?
Hi I have a couple questions so I'll explain my situation and any advice would be appreciated.
Can't remember exact date so lets call it some time in 2008 I got a fine for $5000.00 for driving without in insurance. I never paid the fine and in 2012 I was pulled over and the officer asked to see my license. Although I had it on me I figured it would be under suspension for the unpaid fine from…
Caught speeding excessively but wasn't pulled over
Alright, so I did something really stupid the other day, I was driving down a country road and wanted to hit the curves so I passed 3 cars at once, inadvertently making it up to very much past 50 over (80 limit)... Much to my chagrin there was a cop coming in the opposite direction who immediately skidded on the gravel shoulder and who I thought was 100% going to turn around and pull me over,…
Markham Rd East Courthouse
Anyone know how backed this courthouse is? I submitted my ticket for trial at the end of August, and still no letter. Im scared it got lost in the mail, can i call the courthouse and find out my courtdate? Or would i have to go in personally?
Failure to Use Low Beams - Following
I recently received a ticket for failure to use low beams - while following - Ticket was issued Sec 168 (
- it was on the 401 and no one was within 500 meters of me, I was warning a oncoming vehicle that there was an officer hiding (which is not illegal or I could not find a law against it) it was a police vehicle travelling at very high rate of speed in the opposite direction with no lights on…
Trial in a week
I have a trial scheduled for Monday and finally went to pick up the notes and DVD. Would love some advice.
This is a ticketed 70 in a 60, reduced from an alleged 84.
xxxx car with PC <officer>
Sunny Clear Morning Roads Dry and Bare
Rds in good condition with clearly marked lanes.
Bee III tested at 0725 hrs
Police are W/B Observe a blk <my car> weaving through traffic…
Got conviction notice for a never-received ticket (2pts)
I received a warning letter from MTO for a 2pts ticket.What happened is that the police officer issued a "unsafe left turn" and then changed the ticket to "failed to signal" at the scene, but she submitted both tickets!!! And I !!!ONLY!!! received the latter ticket from her(I requested trial for "failed to signal"). I recently received notice from MTO that I'm convicted for "unsafe left turn".
I…
Hand- held device ticket- help
Hello everyone! I was given a ticket for using a hand-held communication device while driving. It was 3 am, I was at a stop light and the cop saw me with the my phone in my hand. I told him i was just checking the time on it. I received the notes a few weeks ago ill copy them down below. Any help is appreciated although i believe there's no hope for me. The cop recorded me saying what phone i…
Hands Free only Ocober 26, 2009
so I wonder if the OPP going to be out Monday morning handing out tickets for talking on the cell phone tommorow ![]()
wonder how much this is going to backlog the courts now--because im thinking, alot of people just arent going to get it..
Driving While Under Suspension
Hi,
I got pulled over about 15 or so days ago the court till this date has not received the summons what is the legal time period that the court has to follow to accept the summons from the office court says its 15 days is the legal timeframe the officer has to serve it on the court
but this information says differently..
www.canlii.org/en/on/laws/reâ¦latest/rro-1990-reg-200.html
11. (1) The clerk…
145KM/HR IN 100 POSTED HWY 401
I got a ticket for doing 145km/hr in a 100km/hr posted on hwy 401 East Region near Napanee at 11:15pm on Oct 24 2014.
I am fighting the ticket myself and just received the disclosure.
The officer used the Genesis II Select Directional Radar and in her notes she wrote:
"Radar - G2S25705"
"test before - 1100"
"test after - 0410"
Can anyone tell me what the two numbers for test before and test after mean?
I…
Need Advice on Limited Disclosure before Court Date
Dear friends,
I requested for disclosure of information two months ago.
I received the radar manual after one month, but not others (including maintenance/calibration record of the radar, certificate of police training). On further pursuit, the prosecutor told me that he did not have them and he did not see why I needed these documents. He said he did not know where to get them when I asked.
My…
speeding 134 in 100KM/hr
Last Friday I was pulled over by an OPP motorcycle cop who informed me I was going 134. I was on the SB 404, I did see him parked under a bridge and when I passed him he was not on his bike.
I'm hoping to get some insight for a defense in this case.
I was in lane 1 and I had a car in front of me, and a car behind me, also there was a car speeding down Lane 3 passing everyone and moved quickly into…