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We as human beings have a right to travel freely. It is clearly stated under Common law... I will get the exact location of that 'right' and post.

Highways are highways...doesn't matter whether its a 400 series or a country gravel road !!

This may help you understand the situation as per US proven cases....
http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref ...

Remember the HTA is an ACT not LAW.... it is a legislation that carries the enforcement of law only with OUR CONSENT.

Squishy wrote:Getting a license plate and a driver's license are not rights. If the terms are violated then the privelege can be revoked.

You are wrong... according to the Bill of Rights..we have a RIGHT to travel on our highways....it is a RIGHT.... not a privilige as we are brainwashed into believing. Look it up....

Cruiser could have been stolen, could it not ? I personally do not view a police officer as a superior being to myself...so I would be as discerning with one as I would with any other human being.

We are not obliged to give any info to an officer uniformed or otherwise unless we are operating a registered vehicle.....or engaged in a crime that ...

Several years ago I was in a similar situation to you Dimension... I measured the distance and had all of my information at hand. I had NOT gone through an amber light as accused. Once I was in court the JP running the show said " You may believe you did not go through an amber light but our police officers are not paid to lie" Needless to say this ...

Because they do not have the right to abuse our rights. It's that simple. By law (not statute as statutes are NOT laws) we are NOT obliged to do anything that interferes with our rights and freedoms. We cannot be forced to sign or agree to anything. Signing is a voluntary movement of ours.....we do not have to do it. Also, you need to remember that ...

.....also remember you have the right to ask a peace officer (on duty or not) for 3 pieces of identification to verify his claim of who he says he is... If he cant provide ....ignore him.

Now that part is BS....there is not 3 pieces of ID. There is only 1 piece of ID that would identify an officer.

There are cases (assault police) that have ...

What about a person whose car was driven by another, yet car owner is given a charge of impaired driving but wasn't even in the car at time of their car being involved in colliding with a tree.... and was not in car when officer arrived either.... what charge can be laid then ???? Careful... trick question....!

Unbelievable!! How can anyone condone the actions of an impaired driving.

Well first of all you must remember that EVERYONE is innocent until PROVEN guilty. Also you must realise that not all impaired tickets/charges that are written are based on proof of claim.

I think we have the RIGHT to fight anything that we want to fight. The trouble is ...

What happened was a fraudulent trial. It's not a loophole to ask to have a clear understanding...it is a RIGHT. We all have a RIGHT to a fair trial. It cannot be fair if the evidence is not disclosed in its entirety.

No-one has a right to enter a plea for you either...that is fraudulent practice. only an accused can enter a plea. Therefore what ...

Well maybe everyone should be issued free cellphones to ensure that we are placed in a dubious situation. Not everyone has a cellphone.

CoolChick - YES, I take the blame on that incorrect button press.....went to "quote" your words....not add to them by hitting the "edit" button. :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

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What/who is actually being obstructed by being unable to see the word Ontario ?

The most important, I'm ...

Oh for goodness sake... Don't accept any ticket from him. Why on earth would you sit there waiting for him. You should have told you you don't accept a ticket, you didn't do what he said you did...simple...do not accept a ticket from him...don't sign anything at all.... he has to pass the ticket to you directly and you have to accept it for it to ...

Having a dirty plate isn't a criminal offense (no criminal record associated with it obviously) so therefore it is not a crime. Yeah that's basically the definition of a crime: something that the government deems to be a criminal offense.

Actually that is not lawful or true...

Our laws and rights are based on pre-government law. Thats known as ...

What/who is actually being obstructed by being unable to see the word Ontario ?

The most important, I'm guessing is for the public to see the plate, in wondering why there are many reasons..
- hit and run
- robberies
- abductions / AMBER ALERTS
etc..

Proper plate information is critical to locating and apprehending the vehicle and persons ...

Thanks Radar.... I am digesting all the info...

What/who is actually being obstructed by being unable to see the word Ontario ?

OK but according to our rights....we have the right to a fair and speedy trial.... if they delay the disclosure indefinitely wouldn't that compromise our right ?

Doesn't the law require that any person charged, needs to fully understand the charges against them. ? By that I take it that it means that they (the accused) are to be given all they need in order to obtain that understanding. Surely disclosures are a main component of understanding anything that one is charged with ?

When you are in court, just ...

Why not give them a time limit and say you will be down in person to pick it up on a specific date !

Or ask how long it takes ...if they say 5 days... then say you will be down on that date five days from now !

Or give them a time limit ( in writing by recorded mail ) slightly in excess of the time they say they need to get disclosure ready. If ...

Will update as more info becomes available....

Also if everyone without picture ID on their body or close at hand when stopped in a vehicle (and stopped for no good reason after following said car from the owners own residence I might add ) there would be a hell of a lot of people being arrested for no good reason.

Yes thank you... we have gone slightly off topic, will keep on topic on thread from this point.
Topic is actually :
TRAFFIC STOPS....providing ID (which according to the Traffic Act in posts above can be remedied by anything with 'name' and current address', even by verbalising your name and current address is considered reasonable identification ...

So I just go to main court house and request to obtain an arrest warrant ?
Who would be arresting him, us ? He's about 6'6" and barrel chested... I'd need a step ladder ... and possibly a tazer :wink: !! :shock:

You said the JP might not sign it.....so shall I go an try to get one and maybe you can tell me what to do with it.... ( politely of ...

Have got it confirmed today... just as Lawman says... Unable to produce drivers licence is NOT an arrestable offence.

Police always disclose info about people who are ALLEGEDLY guilty of a crime......but it appears to be taboo in some areas of the media to reverse the situation and disclose to media about the '''alleged brutality by a police ...

Thank you guys again for all of your very very helpful advice, you are worth your weight in gold....

I sincerely hope this gets into the press about my son as it is a most awful and terrible violation to a young man who is recovering from a near fatal car accident.

Also the same time we were at the station the night of the arrest... another male came up from cells and was complaining to an officer at front desk that he didn't understand how he could be arrested for nothing and why they had the right to beat him.
brutality is terrible in this city....so much so that about 200 high school kids protested in the ...

car had been searched when it was left on the street before we collected it., seat backs were laid down flat and it had been searched.,obviously an illegal search !!!!!

Thank you...