I just got a speeding ticket in Centenial park 50 km zone while I am running 81km as the policeman said. I was shock so I did not say anything but I am sure that I only drove at 70 km since I have just scan through my speed odometer and I tried to slow down. Besides I just made a right turn from Rathburn and I following another car. How can I drove 81? I would be agree with the police for 70 but not 81. I was advised before not to argue or disagree with the police so I did not ask any thing. I want to go to the court for this but should I choose option 1 or option 2? What are my chances? Please advise. Thanks.
I just got a speeding ticket in Centenial park 50 km zone while I am running 81km as the policeman said. I was shock so I did not say anything but I am sure that I only drove at 70 km since I have just scan through my speed odometer and I tried to slow down. Besides I just made a right turn from Rathburn and I following another car. How can I drove 81? I would be agree with the police for 70 but not 81. I was advised before not to argue or disagree with the police so I did not ask any thing.
I want to go to the court for this but should I choose option 1 or option 2?
Just a couple of explanations... Option 1 - Guilty plea with payment out of court. You'll get the total payable, demerit points, and likely a good insurance increase. Option 2 - Plead guilty with an explanation. You will appear before a Justice of the Peace, and explain why you were going 81 in a 50. You may get a reduced fine, but that's entirely at the discretion of the Justice of the Peace. You will get the same demerit points, and likely a good insurance increase. Option 3 - Not Guilty with a Trial. You will get a trial scheduled. Possible outcomes of that: 1. You fight it all the way, get convicted of the original offence. Same outcome as option 1 (maybe a slightly bigger fine), but it takes a lot longer to end up on your record. 2. You fight it all the way and win at trial. Charge dismissed. $0 fine, 0 demerit points, no insurance increase. (This doesn't include time/money you'd spend fighting it.) Just as a caution: Speeding tickets are very difficult to contest and most "wins" are actually technicalities. 3. The officer doesn't show up for trial. Charge withdrawn. 4. The Prosecutor fails to provide proper disclosure, you file a motion to stay the charge, JP (Justice of the Peace) grants it. Charge dismissed. (JP would usually just order an adjournment so the disclosure could be provided to you.) 5. It takes too long for it to go to trial, you file an 11B motion, and the charge gets stayed. (We're talking 1 year+). 6. You plead guilty to a lesser speed, like 15 over. Reduced fine, 0 demerit points, possible insurance increase (depends on your provider). It's your decision as to what you want to do with it. FYI - "disclosure" is where you obtain the Prosecutor's evidence against you prior to trial, including the officer's notes and the radar/laser manual. Hope this helps getting you started...
Just a couple of explanations...
Option 1 - Guilty plea with payment out of court. You'll get the total payable, demerit points, and likely a good insurance increase.
Option 2 - Plead guilty with an explanation. You will appear before a Justice of the Peace, and explain why you were going 81 in a 50. You may get a reduced fine, but that's entirely at the discretion of the Justice of the Peace. You will get the same demerit points, and likely a good insurance increase.
Option 3 - Not Guilty with a Trial. You will get a trial scheduled. Possible outcomes of that:
1. You fight it all the way, get convicted of the original offence. Same outcome as option 1 (maybe a slightly bigger fine), but it takes a lot longer to end up on your record.
2. You fight it all the way and win at trial. Charge dismissed. $0 fine, 0 demerit points, no insurance increase. (This doesn't include time/money you'd spend fighting it.) Just as a caution: Speeding tickets are very difficult to contest and most "wins" are actually technicalities.
3. The officer doesn't show up for trial. Charge withdrawn.
4. The Prosecutor fails to provide proper disclosure, you file a motion to stay the charge, JP (Justice of the Peace) grants it. Charge dismissed. (JP would usually just order an adjournment so the disclosure could be provided to you.)
5. It takes too long for it to go to trial, you file an 11B motion, and the charge gets stayed. (We're talking 1 year+).
6. You plead guilty to a lesser speed, like 15 over. Reduced fine, 0 demerit points, possible insurance increase (depends on your provider).
It's your decision as to what you want to do with it. FYI - "disclosure" is where you obtain the Prosecutor's evidence against you prior to trial, including the officer's notes and the radar/laser manual.
Hope this helps getting you started...
* The above is NOT legal advice. By acting on anything I have said, you assume responsibility for any outcome and consequences. *
http://www.OntarioTicket.com OR http://www.OHTA.ca
What are the chances, I just got pulled over for 81km/h close to your location by eglington and central pkwy. It was bald, undercover cop with scotish accent, I wonder you had the same one. He did drop it down 65km/h in a 50km/h suggesting not go to court to avoid amending the full 81km/h which is 4 demerit point and ~252 fine. I slowed down way before and the road is curvey, I wonder his radar picked up it from far. I wonder if you had the same cop and he is using 81km/h for all of us in that area. I had one minor ticket for which 3 years end this september and my renew is march 10 so by next renewal I would be back to one minor ticket assuming it is considered a minor and my insurance johnsons allows one minor. What should I do? Mississauga is pretty fast with court dates and to get the disclores and then having enough time to still plead guilty before the court date seems little risky.
What are the chances, I just got pulled over for 81km/h close to your location by eglington and central pkwy. It was bald, undercover cop with scotish accent, I wonder you had the same one. He did drop it down 65km/h in a 50km/h suggesting not go to court to avoid amending the full 81km/h which is 4 demerit point and ~252 fine. I slowed down way before and the road is curvey, I wonder his radar picked up it from far. I wonder if you had the same cop and he is using 81km/h for all of us in that area. I had one minor ticket for which 3 years end this september and my renew is march 10 so by next renewal I would be back to one minor ticket assuming it is considered a minor and my insurance johnsons allows one minor. What should I do?
Mississauga is pretty fast with court dates and to get the disclores and then having enough time to still plead guilty before the court date seems little risky.
i lost my license in an accident i had to due my exceeding amount of demerit points. i went to jail and made bail i was put on a curfew of 9am to 9pm stupidly enough i did not follow and i got pulled over for driving with a different cars license plates, no insurance, and violating my curfew... i…
I was charged for disobey sign (no left turn) in a winter noon time around Bay/Edward (the prosecutor/judge said it to be a Absolute liability offences but disobey sign is actually a strict liability offence, right? And I found this: For example, if you made an illegal left-turn where there were…
so got fined with 69km in a 50km, at bottom of hill...didn't even have foot on the gas. first ticket ever in over 10 years of driving. fine was 62$ and 3 points.
cop says take to court and get demerit points reduced. didn't even let me speak and walks away.
On my way to work today I got a 110 dollar ticket + 2 demerit points.
I was driving north on Bathurst and turned left onto a side street into a residential area before hitting the lights at Eglinton and Bathurst. I normally do this to avoid the big line up to turn left onto Eglinton.
On the 400 extension EB towards Barrie cops like to hide out under an over pass that is Ski Trails Rd. They tag people as the come over the crest of the hill and that is 900m from where this officer was standing.
I'm confused because I knew this, saw the cop, and checked my…
I was making a left hand legal turn on a green light, a driver came through the lane I was supposed to be going into ran the red and hit me head on as I was turning into my lane. When the officer came he was telling me that I was racing and driving recklessly because apparently there was reports of…
Today i got caught doing 115 in a 90 at Mayfield and 410 and what I have been reading is that this offence is 3 points. Seeing this is my first offence I'm unsure if the ticket is supposed to I lost 3 points or is that just automatic. Also should I go to fight it to drop the points and just pay the…
I was (recently) involved in a traffic accident where, due to icy road conditions, I slid into oncoming traffic while making a right turn, while they were coming towards me and stopping at a stop sign. This was a residential area and there's no way I was exceeding anything over 20KM/h on…