I am new to the boards, but here goes my unique situation.
I have had a valid drivers licence from age 16, I am now 30. I had a support suspension on my licence, which was withdrawn Nov 2011. I also had an unpaid fine from June 5th 2010 which left my licence suspended indefinitely in Nov 2010. I have paid my fine and reinstatement, but was informed that because I was suspended for more than three years I had to pay fees and re-test again. I understand the $150 reinstatement and the ticket but the over three years irked me. I asked what they were talking about as I had a warning from the Family Responsibility Office in May 2010 stating that if I didn't make payment within 30 days ie. in June 2010 (still less than three years ago), I would have my licence suspended, but was issued no formal letter of suspension. So I called up the MTO, this is what ensued:
Me: I have a dilemma
Me: I would like to know why when I was suspended in November 2010 does it say that is more than three years ago.
Agent: You were suspended in February 2010 for support arrears
Me: Then why when I was pulled over in June 2010 was I not charged with driving with a suspended licence?
Agent: Ask the police
Agent: In February 2010 You received notice of suspension
Me: No I didn't
Agent: Yes you did
Me: Then why wasn't I arrested in June 2010?
Agent: not up to us that's local law enforcement
Me: I was still driving right up till Sept
Agent: then you were driving Illegally
Me: Did I reinstate before November 2010?
Me: When was I suspended for unpaid fine?
Agent: November 2010, we also issued you a letter in November letting you know you were suspended in February(THIS IS 9 FREAKING MONTHS LATE)
Me(Notably Frustrated): Explain to me how I can be suspended in February, drive through till september, and get a ticket in june for speeding, not get arrested or charged with driving while suspended, and then suspended again in November without ever seeing a piece of paper or paying a reinstatement fee?
Agent: you couldn't have been driving for that long as you were suspended in February
Me: I have a speeding ticket to prove that I was
Agent: All you can do is pay the fees and re-test there are no other options because our system says invalid since Feb 2010
Me: So I cant fight this
So, here is the Official timeline that I saw from my end:
May 2010: Received warning letter fro FRO that my licence would be suspended in 30 days if I didn't make a payment.
June 2010: Pulled over for speeding, ask officer if my licence is still valid he tells me yes it is and wrote me a speeding ticket.
July-Sept 2010: Continued driving, and rented a couple moving vans for friends and drove them
Oct 2010: Gave up Car(Dad needed it back)
Nov 2010: Informed about being suspended for unpaid fines(assumed it was FRO)
Oct 2010-Feb 2012: Stayed with dad, travelling to London ON for schooling(bussing)
Feb 2012: Tried to update address on Drivers Licence as I was going to stay in London, was informed it was suspended due to unpaid Fines(kept assuming it was FRO)
Last week(May 2013): Was informed FRO had reinstated in Nov 2011, and that my suspension was just for the fine in June 2010, when asked whats involved to reinstate they tell me I have to take all tests over again because I had been suspended for over 3 years.
Okay so, first question, How did I get suspended twice in same year without reinstating, second why when pulled over in June was I not arrested and charged when according to the MTO I was suspended in February of that year? I am student on Ontario works and cannot afford the fines and Fees I have already paid out, and do not need to pay an extra $125 and mental stress of having to test again all the tests. Is there anything I can do about this?
2) It would be rare for an officer to simply ignore a suspension. My guess is that the officer either never checked the status of your licence or it wasnÃƒÂ¢Ã‚â‚¬Ã‚â„¢t showing correctly on the database
3) IÃƒÂ¢Ã‚â‚¬Ã‚â„¢m not sure how youÃƒÂ¢Ã‚â‚¬Ã‚â„¢d go about disputing dates with the MTO. Do you still have copies of any of the paperwork they sent you? Maybe contact FRO and see what records they have. Unfortunately I donÃƒÂ¢Ã‚â‚¬Ã‚â„¢t think itÃƒÂ¢Ã‚â‚¬Ã‚â„¢s going to be an easy process for you.
When I was pulled over for speeding he did take my licence back and run it, because of the warning letter from FRO I received in May of that year I asked him to. And he told me my Licence was valid and Current. So obviously nothing in Database....Stanton wrote: 2) It would be rare for an officer to simply ignore a suspension. My guess is that the officer either never checked the status of your licence or it wasnÃƒÂ¢Ã‚â‚¬Ã‚â„¢t showing correctly on the database.
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