Ontario Highway Traffic Act

FyreStorm wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:40 pm Yes, there's one to fight.

How should I? I've heard people just avoiding it until justice reviews it and if not they appeal using the London vs Young, but are those tactics dated? It's my second ticket ever, first one being only 15km/h over so I'm new to this. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

... as $180 set fine and $200 Total Payable. If I ignore the Ticket, can I still use London vs Young 2008 to get it quashed? Or has case laws changed since I've last been on here?

... the argument is that the ticket is not "complete and regular on its face." Per London v Young (which was about incorrect set fines on a bunch of tickets), the judge states in paragraph 30:
"The Oxford English Dictionary, 2nd ed., Vol. XIII, at p. 523, contains a number of definitions or meanings of the word "regular". One definition that appears ...

... on the ticket), and getting 3 demerits in the process. The other option, similar to London v. Young, is to request trial, not show up and be convicted (deemed not to dispute charge). Under this scenario, I would be convicted of s. 128 for speeding, to which I would appeal and say: "my ticket and the set fine says it is about a permit violation, why ...

... and wait to see if it gets quashed. If it doesn't then you can appeal citing the London v Young case.

Hi. So the ticket was not quashed. I have received a Notice of Fine/conviction. What's next? How do I appeal the ruling? Any further details on the London vs Young case?

Thanks for all your assistance!

Yep this looks like a classic fatal error scenario. The best thing to do in this situation is ignore the ticket and wait to see if it gets quashed. If it doesn't then you can appeal citing the London v Young case.

... it comes to fighting such cases tooth to nail.

Anyway, just a small note to jsherk, London v. Young would still be a valid argument if you need to use it, in that case the tickets were not corrected. So if a ticket is filled with the court and it is incomplete, you can still use that case law.
In this scenario the officers were "modifying" with the ...

... out with a new ruling today that will effect those of us who might wish to use the London v. Young defence. It seems that the court has said that if a cop notices an error on a ticket before filing it he or she can change it on their copy before filing to with the court. In order to get the ticket quashed you will now have to convince a Judge that ...

... it self, instead it is contained in an Ontario Court of Appeal ruling called City of London vs. Young. Here is a link to it http://www.ontariocourts.ca/decisions/2008/may/2008ONCA0429.htm

Also worth reading is the Provincial Offences Act. This is the enabling legislation that allows police officers and other enforcement agencies to issue tickets ...

... it self, instead it is contained in an Ontario Court of Appeal ruling called City of London vs. Young. Here is a link to it http://www.ontariocourts.ca/decisions/2008/may/2008ONCA0429.htm

Also worth reading is the Provincial Offences Act. This is the enabling legislation that allows police officers and other enforcement agencies to issue tickets ...

If the ticket does not state section number 128, then you must follow the London v. Young "forced fatal error" method. There are many many threads here that discuss this method, please use the search bar.

List of fatal errors: http://www.ontariohighwaytrafficact.com/topic1965.html

It appears you have already chosen the trial option. In order to force ...

... to do nothing, i didnt appeal nor pay, hoping to get the ticket quashed based on London vs young. Unfortunatelty, I was convicted in absence. I appealed and have my appeal date in the next 2 days. Also, when I filed the appeal, the clerk gave me copies of all the relevant documents, and in that I noticed that she had a copy of my ticket, however ...

... the search function on this site to search for the terms "force fatal error" and "London vs Young" that should bring up a number of threads from people who have used this strategy to defeat tickets with fatal errors on them.

Sounds like a good candidate for the London v Young defence, since the fine doesn't match the offence listed on the ticket.

... a huge difference on my insurance increase and demerit points).

Wondering if London v. Young applies here and the best way to proceed.

This was on highway 64, ontario.