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FyreStorm wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:40 pm Yes, there's one to fight.

How should I? I've heard people just avoiding it until justice reviews it and if not they appeal using the London vs Young, but are those tactics dated? It's my second ticket ever, first one being only 15km/h over so I'm new to this. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Hey Guys, It's been a while since I've used this forum (Haven't been charged with anything in 3 years, so I've cleaned ... Total Payable. If I ignore the Ticket, can I still use London vs Young 2008 to get it quashed? Or has case laws changed since I've last been on here?

... the offence of: "Fail to surrender permit for motor vehicle."
Contrary to: "Highway Traffic Act"
Section: "128 ... ticket is not "complete and regular on its face." Per London v Young (which was about incorrect set fines on a bunch of tickets), the judge states in paragraph 30:
"The Oxford English Dictionary, 2nd ed., Vol. XIII, at p. 523 ...

... a permit, with the corresponding set fine of $85. However, the HTA section cited is 128, for speeding.

Went ... demerits in the process. The other option, similar to London v. Young, is to request trial, not show up and be convicted (deemed not to dispute charge). Under this scenario, I would be convicted of s. 128 for speeding, to which I ...

... quashed. If it doesn't then you can appeal citing the London v Young case.

Hi. So the ticket was not quashed. I have received a Notice of Fine/conviction. What's next? How do I appeal the ruling? Any further details on the London vs Young case?

Thanks for all your assistance!

Yep this looks like a classic fatal error scenario. The best thing to do in this situation is ignore the ticket and wait to see if it gets quashed. If it doesn't then you can appeal citing the London v Young case.

... tooth to nail.

Anyway, just a small note to jsherk, London v. Young would still be a valid argument if you need to use it, in that case the tickets were not corrected. So if a ticket is filled with the court and it is incomplete, you can still use that case law.
In this scenario the officers were "modifying" with the certificate of offence, that is ...

... that will effect those of us who might wish to use the London v. Young defence. It seems that the court has said that if a cop notices an error on a ticket before filing it he or she can change it on their copy before filing to with the court. In order to get the ticket quashed you will now have to convince a Judge that the error significantly ...

Perfect, thank you very much.

I will call the provincial offence offices tomorrow to check on the ticket

Thanks ... in an Ontario Court of Appeal ruling called City of London vs. Young. Here is a link to it http://www.ontariocourts.ca/decisions/2008/may/2008ONCA0429.htm

Also worth reading is the Provincial Offences Act. This is the enabling ...

... error and would be a successful reason to appeal a conviction?

You won't find the definition of a fatal error in the act it self, instead it is contained in an Ontario Court of Appeal ruling called City of London vs. Young. Here is a link to it http://www.ontariocourts.ca/decisions/2008/may/2008ONCA0429.htm

Also worth reading is the Provincial ...

... not state section number 128, then you must follow the London v. Young "forced fatal error" method. There are many many threads here that discuss this method, please use the search bar.

List of fatal errors: http://www.ontariohighwaytrafficact.com/topic1965.html

It appears you have already chosen the trial option. In order to force the fatal error ...

... I was doing 84KM/H in a 50KM/H. The cop said he will give me a reduced fine of 15km/h over. He wrote the ticket ... nor pay, hoping to get the ticket quashed based on London vs young. Unfortunatelty, I was convicted in absence. I appealed and have my appeal date in the next 2 days. Also, when I filed the appeal, the clerk gave me copies of all ...

... site to search for the terms "force fatal error" and "London vs Young" that should bring up a number of threads from people who have used this strategy to defeat tickets with fatal errors on them.

Sounds like a good candidate for the London v Young defence, since the fine doesn't match the offence listed on the ticket.

Officer pulled me over in what i assumed was a 90km/h zone doing 112. Without a doubt, that was how fast i was going ... insurance increase and demerit points).

Wondering if London v. Young applies here and the best way to proceed.

This was on highway 64, ontario.