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  • Re: Is this sign on public/private property?
    Any idea what the legally defined distance you have to be away from a no turn sign before it no longer in effect against your vehicle is? E.g. the people who's driveways are directly next to that sign should still be able to make a left, right? In makin…
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  • Re: Is this sign on public/private property?
    Thanks - doesn't actually define the left turn unfortunately. I know I'm reaching at straws. Statutory interpretation is interesting - apply the law as written via definitions and interpret the rest based on plain language. Also I think I read you …
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  • Re: Is this sign on public/private property?
    Ah... wasn't aware of statuory interpretation with regard to using one section of the act to interpret another. Do you have any idea where I can find the definition of the "forbidding left turn" sign as it applies per 182 (2)? Am I incorrect i…
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  • Re: Is this sign on public/private property?
    Even MTO's website states the sign to mean "do not turn left at the intersection": http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/ ... .1.1.shtml Wasn't an intersection. Wasn't disobeying the sign by definition.
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  • Re: Is this sign on public/private property?
    Sorry, I'll try to collect my thoughts better here, 182 (2) states you must obey the instructions of all signs errected. So, what sign did I disobey? "forbidden left turn" All signs in the HTA have specific definitions (as law should). High…
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  • Re: Is this sign on public/private property?
    Yes - you are correct I was charged under 182 (2). I think its already accepted that 182 (2) does not apply to private signs posted. So, although 182 (2) states all signs posted - it clearly is not enforceable as all signs posted. Also, from my notes a…
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  • Re: Is this sign on public/private property?
    I'm just thinking further into this, Part X - RULES OF THE ROAD - specifically states an intersection as: Signs (9) The provisions of this section are subject to any sign, as prescribed by the regulations, forbidding a left turn, right turn, through mov…
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  • Re: Is this sign on public/private property?
    OK - from what I can tell this relates to section 139 (1) about leaving a private road onto public highway. This states you can enter so long as it does not constitute any hazard. (2) Subsection (1) does not apply to a driver or operator entering a hig…
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  • Is this sign on public/private property?
    Got a ticket for failing to obey this "no left" sign. It's attached to the Tim Hortons in Toronto, it's hardly noticeable when leaving the drive-through. How can I find out if this sign is a private or public? http://i.imgur.com/GFUqrE4.png Thanks!
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