Re: Is this sign on public/private property? Any idea what the legally defined distance you have to be away from a no turn sign before it no longer in effect against your vehicle is?
E.g. the people who's driveways are directly next to that sign should still be able to make a left, right?
In makin…
Re: Is this sign on public/private property? Thanks - doesn't actually define the left turn unfortunately.
I know I'm reaching at straws.
Statutory interpretation is interesting - apply the law as written via definitions and interpret the rest based on plain language. Also I think I read you …
Re: Is this sign on public/private property? Ah... wasn't aware of statuory interpretation with regard to using one section of the act to interpret another.
Do you have any idea where I can find the definition of the "forbidding left turn" sign as it applies per 182 (2)?
Am I incorrect i…
Re: Is this sign on public/private property? Even MTO's website states the sign to mean "do not turn left at the intersection": http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/ ... .1.1.shtml
Wasn't an intersection. Wasn't disobeying the sign by definition.
Re: Is this sign on public/private property? Sorry, I'll try to collect my thoughts better here,
182 (2) states you must obey the instructions of all signs errected.
So, what sign did I disobey? "forbidden left turn"
All signs in the HTA have specific definitions (as law should). High…
Re: Is this sign on public/private property? Yes - you are correct I was charged under 182 (2).
I think its already accepted that 182 (2) does not apply to private signs posted. So, although 182 (2) states all signs posted - it clearly is not enforceable as all signs posted. Also, from my notes a…
Re: Is this sign on public/private property? I'm just thinking further into this,
Part X - RULES OF THE ROAD - specifically states an intersection as:
Signs (9) The provisions of this section are subject to any sign, as prescribed by the regulations, forbidding a left turn, right turn, through mov…
Re: Is this sign on public/private property? OK - from what I can tell this relates to section 139 (1) about leaving a private road onto public highway. This states you can enter so long as it does not constitute any hazard.
(2) Subsection (1) does not apply to a driver or operator entering a hig…
Is this sign on public/private property? Got a ticket for failing to obey this "no left" sign.
It's attached to the Tim Hortons in Toronto, it's hardly noticeable when leaving the drive-through.
How can I find out if this sign is a private or public?
http://i.imgur.com/GFUqrE4.png
Thanks!