Ontario Highway Traffic Act

They will keep trying. If they believe you are intentionally avoiding them they can get an arrest warrant. Not saying they will but you may as well accept the subpoena.

rank wrote: it's obvious to me, that the real reason there was no replies to "infallible" is because folks are worried about giving up trade secrets or getting in trouble at work or some such thing.

There you go making those assumptions again

In the scenario above the officer would not answer no. The driver has to provide those things.

What do you mean by a secondary offence?
Are you an officer/retired officer? I thought it was a common term. I even googled it before I posted to make sure.

Schreech, you are correct that I meant a secondary offence is one that you cannot be pulled over for. You get pulled over for the primary offence....i.e. speeding, then the officer sees that ...

You got no replies so you assumed that meant it was fallible. Why not make the other assumption ?

When operated correctly I never saw anything to question the reading. The reading and the observation go hand in hand.

I'm all for fighting tickets at the right time but jsherk goes the extra mile by trying to recommend ridiculous defences which are ...

You misunderstand... I am compelled to give my license, which I do , but only after asking "Am I required to give that to you?" followed by "Here is my license but I am giving it to you because I have to and I am not giving it to you voluntarily". Any compelled information obtained (whether a statement or a drivers license) can not be used against ...

Agreed with the eye roll. You'd be laughed out of court trying you say that any identification should be thrown out of court because you were compelled to give your drivers license. Jsherk had given some good advice in the past but appears to be becoming more and more 'out there'. From counseling offers to counseling purgery to recommending a ...

Tks "jsherk" for sending the email. Soldiers died for a freedom and now we are letting unrepresentative government take away our freedoms with good intentions of course.
$325 ticket, give me a break, plus insurance penalties for 3 years? Why not make it $550, make more money.

Warning - rant ahead.

As a former soldier (who lost good friends) I'm ...

This exemption is for people who might be stopping at every few houses. I think it would be hard to apply to a pizza delivery driver.

This is the most bizarre thread. I personally have a huge issue if coppers are writing tickets for offences that don't exist. Plus quotas are nonsense and no officer should have to make up charges because there are so many out there.

If I even caught one of my recruits doing this I'd punch them in the throat !

I'm still interested in the OP's explanation for the different offences than those he related in the original post particularly where he made specific reference to the officer saying the charge might be dropped if a DL was presented to the prosecutor.

Oops.......early morning here in the UK

These are two tickets from the same ticket book (sequential numbering) so would be the same courthouse. Plus the charges are number plate light and headlight nothing about your licence.

I suggest you got stopped and got issued two tickets. Happens all the time.

Post the tickets. I call bullshit too.....no-one risks a 90k a year job for a quota.