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Thanks Decatur. Yes, I found the lists but the police documents I found online don't mention them, only the DOT documents. They are pretty consistent, every police board I found online is referring to DOTs and quoting AI-013 like the bible. The compliant devices lists are based on certain product requirements documented in the DOT documents but the ...

I don't see how it would hurt to ask for a stay in court. After all, it is the JP's call and in the worst case, asking for an adjournment would be a reasonable 2nd choice imho. You should however be prepared to explain why you deem the information missing from disclosure relevant or the JP might just not see it your way. That's why I'm looking at ...

Don't delay because the 15 days seems a complicated calculation http://www.ticketcombat.com/step4/section_109.php and it's better to be early than late. RE hating the preparation, I am somewhat different, I hated it from the very beginning ;)
Regarding the officer not showing up. The way I see it, if he is a no-show, the prosecutor won't make you ...

Hi ejadoo,
I remember typing a reply but I guess I forgot to hit the submit button because it ain't here! I'll try a shorter version. Here is a better link to IC http://www.ic.gc.ca/app/sitt/reltel/srch/nwRdSrch.do?lang=eng, just type in manufacturer name, e.g. decatur and presto, all certified equipment for that company is displayed. I haven't ...

Hello ejadoo!
Thanks for the link. Yes, that is helpful if I were to go FOI way. Problem is, the police have 30 days to respond to the request and the prosecution waited till the trail date was less than a month away to say 'no' . I saw somewhere that the prosecution and the courts are required to help lay people with the process. I don't have it ...

Thanks Decatur. Did you manage to find anything?

According to this it is a requirement to have procedures in place " Every chief of police shall establish procedures on traffic management, traffic law enforcement and road safety. O. Reg. 3/99, s. 8."
http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/regs/english/elaws_regs_990003_e.htm
That makes sense, I certainly hope that officer's are not just given a radar ...

Thanks everyone. There are specific guidelines for training in radar operation http://www.docstoc.com/docs/66799986/Ontario-AI-013-Speed-Detector-Devices so I would think records should exist. I am sure no individual officer would knowingly omit required training but if the requirement wasn't there in the first place that's a different story. I ...

thanks hwybear. well, that's exactly what i mean, you'd just stated some requirements for training which I can only assume are documented somewhere. Without knowing that the policy calls for re-qualification every 2 years I wouldn't question the training if for example the officer said he was re-qualified 3 years ago. Comments please?

Does anyone know how to find out who the Justice of Peace will be PRIOR to the court date? Also, who will be the prosecutor?
Thanks in advance for your help,
'Pepsi'

Thanks for your reply Stanton.
Alright, I can question the training but how do I know whether it was sufficient if I don't know what was required in the first place? isn't #2 necessary to prove deficiencies? Same goes for #1, the radar could be a lemon, in and out of repair and I would have no way of knowing that. Another question I have, sorry ...

I don't know where the radar was located :( Thanks for the tip on US CAD manual differences. Does it mean that the units sold in Canada are actually different? If not, then why would they be different. Going back to using the incorrect manual as a line of defence if they refuse to provide it, do you think it might work? Also, I was given permission ...

Hi all,
Need advice on how to handle refusal to disclose the following
1. Device purchase, calibration, test and repair history
2. Policies and instructions relating to laying of charges and operation of the radar.
3. Officer's training records
The reason stated was that the information is not in the possession of the prosecution and if it exists ...

Thanks Decatur! So, the same operation, other than GHD plugs into the car receptacle. Would interference potential be different then? I recall seeing somewhere that vehicle fan can cause interference and that would seem more likely if the device is plugged in rather than some distance away from the cruiser. Also, if they had a GHD shouldn't it come ...

Hi all. Found this site doing research on fighting a speeding ticket. Great site and lots of good info. Thanks for setting up the site and many thanks to all contributors.
Law does not always = justice

Hi all,
Could anyone tell me if Decatur GHD Genesis Handheld Directional radar is the same as Genesis VP Directional? First time fighting a ticket and officer's notes mention GHD whereas prosecutor's disclosure includes pages from Genesis VP Directional and states they are one and the same. This link at least seems to indicate they are not http ...

The guy in BC won on challenging the equipment so don't give up that easily. You have the right to have the evidence to help you prove your innocence so personally I like the strategy. If they refuse you should be able to appeal. All takes time and meanwhile the ticket stays off your record.
GOOD LUCK!

herculeseng, paul1913
Thanks for the info. There were other cars but I can't remember if I was in front..Yes, it is a small car. I don't know at what distance I was clocked, I still didn't get disclosure. Will need that to decide on my line of defense. I will be asking for the manual to check the accuracy claims and any other info that might ...

zixiao,
I am in the process of researching defense options for myself and being new at this can't really offer advice but thought you might find some of the links below of value. Good luck to you in court. I would appreciate your posting the outcome once your case is over. As a general comment, I think it is really sad that police have nothing ...

How interesting. I was ticketed in exactly the same spot, exactly the same speed, just yesterday. Like you, it is my very first ticket ever. I saw 2 police officers but there could have been more. The one that flagged me down sent me to park in a driveway few meters away so I'd be out of the traffic, took my ids with him and went back to the ...