Ontario Highway Traffic Act

You should also consider organizing either:

1) A coup to elect yourself and your friends to the board so you can fix the bylaws.

2) Organize a bylaw change to specificially allow 2 your situation.

This proposal fails the Benjamin Franklin test:

"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both"

If you go to court the justice cannot do anything about the number of points associated with the charge. They can find you "not guility" or reduce the fine amount, but they have nothing to do with points.

Your only way to reduce the points is to go to court and beat the ticket or try to get a plea bargin for a lessor charge with fewer points ...

You have the time, so make the adjustment to your disclosure request and send it off.

I think the odds are in your favour that you will receive a very similiar package to your first request. This should put you in a stronger position to get a Stay for Non-Disclosure.

Wow, thats a big change in information.

1) First thing to do is contact your insurance company / law firm they have representing you. They may be willing to pay for or subsidize a lawyer for this charge as it could effect the bigger case.

2) The law firm doesn't need to pressure the crown to lay charges. They probably just went to a justice swore ...

Although it's not directly stated I'm assuming that you where pulled over by a police officer at the time of the incident and issued a warning?

My guess is then that you received the summons because too much time has passed for the Police Officer to issue a ticket, but for some reason the crown has decided to lay a charge via the summons.

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I believe the former AG Michael Bryant decided that this was legal when the offending vehicle was a bike.

It shouldn't be hard to argue that a Kia and bike are similiar enough to warrent the same treatment.

Police don't a reason to stop you. Under the HTA they can stop you to check if your license and other paper work is valid.

Request Trial, Request Disclosure, read TC's site and wait to see what turns up.

That is excellent news!

Congrats on your victory, I'm looking forward to reading the details.

amcamx wrote:There was apparently another trial dealing with the same issue which was to meet tomorrow to decide the outcome in the same courthouse. However, the JP made it clear that she was not bound by the decision.

I wonder if this was TicketCombat's case.

Any word TC? A lot of people want to know the result.

Kaylee wrote: Also any idea how long the points and charge stays with you?

Point stay with you for 2 years from the date of the offense.

So I spent most of today, sitting around court to have this dealt with. It seems the charge was unusual enough that the crown wanted to deal with it last :( And then we ran out of time. So I now have another court date to set up another trial. It seems the earliest dates that are available are in the new year, which is putting me close to 11b ...

Stopping on the side of the 401 is clearly not Careless Driving. However, most people recognize that it is a dangerous thing to do and avoid it.

Cars that are stopping on the side of the 401 are usually a result of

1) Break down
2) Young children that cannot hold it any longer
3) Cop with Customer.

I have never seen anybody having a picnic on ...

I was driving on 401. At a moment I decided to make a five minutes stop on the right shoulder of the highway.

I think this is your first problem, is that it isn't really believable that you where going to randomly pull to the side of the 401 for a 5 minutes break, the side of the 401 just isn't safe.

If this is what you wrote in your statement ...

you already received the "front" of the ticket. Do not know why you would require to see the same copy again? If the back of the copy is blank, why would that be needed? Possibly is that the "printed" notes you already have?


I've requested the information based on the TC site recommendations, from what I've read on this boards (and I've lurked ...