Hi I am so overwhelmed today. I got a ticket for improper right turn at gore road and hwy 50 intersection. I was new to the area and I am not sure what happened how I missed the right no right turn with red light. Ticket is for $110. It's first time in 10 yrs of my driving record I am pulled over by the officer. Can some one please help shall I fight it or just pay the ticket.
-
anniebasit
- Newbie

- Posts: 3
- Joined: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:03 pm
Got a ticket for improper right turn
-
anniebasit
- Newbie

- Posts: 3
- Joined: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:03 pm
Re: Got a ticket for improper right turn
Can anyone please reply thanks
- highwaystar
- Sr. Member

- Posts: 380
- Joined: Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:46 pm
-
Posting Awards
Re: Got a ticket for improper right turn
Unless you plan to argue that the light was NOT red or that you didn't make a right on the red, then you really have no defence. A disobey sign charge is an absolute liability offence----you either obeyed the sign or you didn't. Whether you saw the sign is irrelevant. So, unless you plan to challenge the act, your best bet is to schedule an Early Resolution meeting. If your record is relatively clean they will likely offer you a reduced fine of $60 (for a total payable of $80)----that's the minimum fine on Disobey Sign. There is nothing they can do about the 2 demerit points---neither the prosecutor nor the court have discretion over points. Plus, there is no other charge that is lower in demerits that applies to such a scenario.
So, its your call---for a few minutes of your time, you could call in for your meeting and get a $30 discount. That's about as good as it will get. Otherwise, you schedule a trial and argue that the light wasn't red or you didn't make a right on the red which is generally not accepted by the courts. I hope that helps you out!
-
anniebasit
- Newbie

- Posts: 3
- Joined: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:03 pm
Re: Got a ticket for improper right turn
Hi Thanks for your reply. I agree with you it is difficult to fight. However it was new sign on that intersection. There were 2 lanes for right turn. Not only myself the car right beside myself made exactly the same mistake because sign is relatively very high (i mean not like regular traffic lights or at an eye distance )due to construction zone. Any comments or suggestions please.
Re: Got a ticket for improper right turn
Whether the sign was new would be considered irrelevant. For arguments sake, every driving experience is new. There's new traffic, new construction, new conditions, etc.
Whether someone else made the same mistake would also be irrelevant. All it says is you're both eligible to be charged.
Sign position is at least an argument. For that you need to look into the a couple things. Was there more than one sign? If so, only one needs to be correctly positioned. The others are just courtesy. Secondly, what exactly do the regulations say about how this particular sign needs to be placed? I don't know that there's any placement requirements other than they need to be visible for at least 60 metres to approaching traffic. Maybe someone else can chime in.
Re: Got a ticket for improper right turn
As someone who frequents this particular intersection, I've always wondered whether the signed "no red-light right turns" was actually enforced as there are serial offenders at all times of the day.
Can OP please advise what was the specific charge on the face of the ticket? Did the officer write, "Improper Right Turn S141(2)"?
What specific lane were you in before the turn? What lane did you turn into after the turn? Did you turn wide into the other lane?
I don't believe this specific charge of Improper Right Turn S141(2) has anything to do with making a red light right turn against a "do not turn right on red light" sign. The appropriate charge could be Disobey Sign S182(2) or Red Light - Fail to Stop S144(18).
Similar Topics
-
-
- Hydroplaning and got a ticket for improper right turn
- Posted in Improper right turn
- By jeffong_hk on
- Replies: 3
-
-
-
- Made an improper right turn, but got a red light ticket
- Posted in General Talk
- By kend7510 on
- Replies: 5
-
-
-
- Turn Not In Safety - Improper Right Turn - Bicycle Collision
- Posted in Improper right turn
- By Hjaworsk on
- Replies: 17
-
-
-
- right turn at "no right turn on red light"
- Posted in Improper right turn
- By gyd on
- Replies: 4
-
-
-
-
- Ticket for improper right turn, he said "you might be l
- Posted in Improper right turn
- By amlife on
- Replies: 11
-
-
-
- Improper right turn ticket
- Posted in Improper right turn
- By Sasan on
- Replies: 1
-
-
-
- I recently received a traffic ticket for improper right hand turn 182(2)
- Posted in Improper right turn
- By Ohta2018-06 on
- Replies: 1
-
-
-
- improper left turn CRAZY charge got to read!!!
- Posted in Improper left turn
- By VWTDI on
- Replies: 1
-
-
-
- Advice Needed: got a summons for improper left turn 141 (5)
- Posted in Improper left turn
- By abc123 on
- Replies: 6
-
-
-
- Got charged for stunt driving? Confused! (Should've been improper left turn...)
- Posted in Stunt Driving
- By Imperfection123 on
- Replies: 4
-
-
-
- Improper Right Turn
- Posted in Improper right turn
- By sidneyc on
- Replies: 1
-
-
-
- Improper Right Turn - Do I have a strong case?
- Posted in Improper right turn
- By royal123 on
- Replies: 13
-
-
-
- is it worth fighting a improper right turn 141.2
- Posted in Improper right turn
- By pft on
- Replies: 1
-
-
-
- quick question regarding 141(2) improper right turn
- Posted in Improper right turn
- By alvin1344 on
- Replies: 1
-
-
-
- Going to court this week for Improper right turn
- Posted in Prohibited turns
- By rancher on
- Replies: 2
-
-
-
- NEED HELP!! Improper right hand turn, SEC. 144(9)
- Posted in Improper right turn
- By ticketed22 on
- Replies: 1
-
-
-
-
- Help! Improper Right Turn 141(2) (Victoria and Bracken)
- Posted in Improper right turn
- By monkeypyjamas on
- Replies: 6
-
-
-
- Improper right turn (York & Front St)
- Posted in Improper right turn
- By vancouver1974 on
- Replies: 3
-
Featured Topics
speeding ticket!
Am really confused about this one, this morning i got a reduced speeding ticket (80km speed in 60 zone), and in the ticket the cop wrote 10km over the speeding limit.. and it has the 'R' code in it.. and the cop said i need to pay this and it doesn't have any points on it..
im fine with paying the ticket which is only 40 dollars but my biggest concern, will it show in my record ? or only tickets…
Received Notice of Trial - need advice on next step
I got a ticket for driving with handheld device in Oct 2015 and I had requested for a trial. Yesterday I received the notice of trial (notice is dated 26-Jan-2017, court of trial is Newmarket, ON) and trial date is Mar 8, 2017. Today, I have sent in a registered request for disclosure (i.e on 29-Jan-2017).
I am requesting advice with the following -
My trial date is Mar 8, 2017 and the insert with…
safe highway merge
I was cruisin on the 401 with about 50 others at 120 kph.
Some-one gets on the entry lane and speeds up to 60 kph and merges.
Now I am amidst 50 cars that have to avoid hitting this a--hole.
I don't know?
Any ideas?
Cheers
Viper1
Trial Adjourned, No video evidence, Cop will show up
Hello Members,
My trial for "Driver failing to wear seat belt" was adjourned as I had not received disclosure before the trial.
The cop was present (I agreed to the same new trial date the cop will be returning for on another individual's adjournment).
Both the cop and the prosecutor advised me of video evidence, however the lady in room 12E (Toronto; 60 Queens) showed me that the disclosure I…
OVER 49km/h in DVP
Hi everyone.
Need some help here for the 1st time speeding ticket?
Sunday morning 12:10am when I was going home from work I was doing bit speeding on Gardiner. I was going with about 130km/h. I know its fast. I always take the same way and I know where the cops hide. They always hide entrance of the highways. If I will do speeding I always look my back and did look this time too. I took gardiner…
Careless Driving Summons Under Part I as result of accident
Hello All,
I just have a question in regards to the summons Under Part 1 I received for an rear end accident:
I was driving on the 2 lane road, and the car in front of me suddenly stopped, I had seen the car, and so I started to brake, however I heard noise from the back and looked int o the rear view mirror and saw a huge "truck" so I decided to go right, took the feet out of brakes but couldnt…
Can the HTA be enforced in a mall parking lot
I have searched and I know the general rule is no, barring criminal charges or tresspassing. So let me use 2 specific issues I have.
1) I have some business in some area malls after hours. Once I have pulled into the mall lot on the way to the closest door I rarely stop at stop signs unless there is a car or person nearby. (i do not carelessly speed, i do show caution, just do not fully stop) Can…
2 tickets I'm scared
In June at 401 London and Wellington I got hit twice, speeding which I didn't realize I was doing and cell phone. The Officer made me open my purse and show him my phone. I was going to meet a Rep of my Company in Kitchener, he called I answered. WRONG! The Officer wasn't even nice. My record was clean and he slapped me twice. I sat in the car and sobbed for 20 minutes as I was scared out of…
Who Are You?
Hi there.
I wanted to "reply" elsewhere...but the more appropriate areas were "locked" to replies....so, here are a couple of questions...from a newbie to this site:
1. Who ARE you? (I'm a little edgy about conversing on a forum whose ownership is not stated anywhere on an "About" page") No offense intended whatsoever. Just like to know who I'm talking with/in front of.......your honor! ![]()
2. Can I…
Caught doing 138 in an 80 zone
Details of the offence:
I was following a Black Jeep for about 15 minutes on County Road 503 in the Township of Minden with the cruise control set at 87Km/hr
I didn't feel comfortable driving behind the Black Jeep since it limits my view of the road up ahead (at around 7PM on a Sunday)
I decided to pass when safe (just outside of Gooderham and before Irondale),
I was travelling eastbound downhill on…
RIGHT Hand Turn from Middle Lane on Red - Opinions/Facts
Scenario:
You are coming off of a highway exit and there are 3 lanes: right hand lane for right hand turn; middle lane for left AND right turn (but no straight thru since it is only a three-way intersection); and left lane for left hand turn. You are first in the middle lane, signalling to make a right.
CAN YOU make a right hand turn from the middle lane on a red if the traffic is clear?
I have…
Trial/disclosure strategy for Speeding ticket
Hey everyone first off I'd like to say great website, I have been reading and it is very useful ![]()
I'm posting today as I'd like to get some feedback on my situation and have a couple of questions. Please excuse the vagueness in some areas - I don't want my case to be identifiable given the small town.
So I was driving up north and was pulled over by an OPP SUV for doing 31 over. Cop drove past me,…
Section 37(1) - Drivers under 16 prohibited
Hello! I'm under 16 currently and really want to drive. I know that section 37(1) says you have to be 16, but I've read that the HTA does not apply when you are in private property, so does that mean I can drive in a parking lot if I wanted to?
144(18) - proceed before green - bicycle
Hey everyone,
I was heading northbound on my bike downtown on friday. After the east/westbound lights went red and after a long pause I decided to get a head start and proceed before the light changed to green. About a block north of me an officer stepped out of an unmarked cruiser and pulled me over and gave me a $180 ticket. Now I see on this site that I should have been given points for it..but…
Ridiculous Insecure Load Ticket
Hello,
Got a ticket Saturday for insecure load. The officer was a real jerk and unfair. I had nothing hanging out the sides and the load wasn't that high. Just taking some junk to the dump. I was doing 40 on Ashley St in Foxboro, 4 ways on taking my time and nothing was going to fall out. I'm thinking about fighting it. Anyone experienced this before?
Thanks very much for reading!!
What can I drive!?
So I got convicted of a dui.. I have been riding my bike in the snow and taking the bus. I am a driving enthusiast and I will be going to the race track all summer but I NEED to drive something right now!
I have done lots of research and even an electric assisted bike that a 16 year old can drive legally on the road is not an option to someone with a dui suspension.
Now I also considered a farm…
100kph in a posted 80kph zone
Hey this is my first ticket so as much information that people can provide will be appreciated. I was making the drive home going around 90kph(in a 80) behind what I knew was an undercover police car. The cop abruptly pulled to the side and pulled back in behind me to pull me over. Now I reduced my speed to below 80 when the cop pulled to the side but he claimed he had me clocked at 109kph and…
Looks like I was screwed today - "Unsafe Lane Change" - NOT!
Hi all,
So I was heading home to today and I was in the left lane of the off ramp, some lady cut across her lane of traffic and across the off ramp median and hit the back side of my car! After a few meters of bumping (I was dazed and confused) I stopped the car.
I call 911 and was told to move the car to the shoulder.
Cop comes, interviews both of us, and lets the lady go! The cop proceeds to give…
Disabled person parking ticket - $350!! Help!!
My partner got a ticket for parking in disabled parking, and we don't want to pay! So far all I can come up with is this:
Halton Hills (where he got the ticket) Parking bylaw (1984-0001) Section III item 12 (c) says:
(c) A designated disabled person parking space shall be distinctly indicated in
accordance with the Regulations of the Highway Traffic Act.
But I can't find anything in the HTA about…
116KM/hr in 100KM/hr seriously?
An undercover cop, well not sure if he was even a cop to be honest, maybe a constable pulled me over after I passed him shortly after a construction zone. He asked me if I was in a rush and said that he was going 105 and I was going 120. It seems mostly from our conversation that he was pissed off that I passed him, because he never told me that I was speeding. None the less the ticket says…
Parking 3M of Firehydrant
Hi,
I got this ticket last year in toronto and received court date recently.
Basically I parket on a street where there are marked spots for car parking but they were all faded with only the white edges showing. I assumed I was in the correct spot when I got out. I never noticed the fire hydrant in the bushes.
When I returned I saw the ticket and then noticed the fire hydrant and when I to the…
Form 4 Offence Notice - content
Hi everyone,
I would like to know if anybody could tell me what "V" stands for on the Code section of the Form 4. I think that it will be useful to understand what information is on this form in order to make a decision on what option we should chose.
Carrying two insurance cards Ontario
Carrying two insurance cards Ontario
A friend was charged with possessing two proofs of insurance, the expired card along with a valid card.
I recall visiting this subject some years ago and found some reference under the HTA, but I cannot find any reference now.
What if any regulation in Ontario states that you are only allowed to carry a single proof of insurance.
I know myself that I will often…
Red light fail to stop under section 144 (18) HTA
Hi Everybody,
I recently received a ticket for red light fail to stop under section 144 (18) of the Highway Traffic Act at the intersection of Dupont St. and Dufferin St. in Toronto with a set fine of $150 and total payable of $190. I think I entered the intersection on a yellow, however that is not the way the officer saw it. During the traffic stop the officer was polite bordering on friendly…
Moore St near Bayview (HTA 182 (2)) A couple of questions...
Got my first ticket last Thursday and I have a couple of questions. I was driving westbound on Moore St. (west of Bayview) and made a left onto a residential street at a 4-way stop sign. It was my first time driving through that area - was driving my girlfriend to a wisdom tooth surgery.
The police were set up to catch people, as that intersection had a no left turn sign from 7-9 am (buses…
