Thornhill - Bathurst and Clark - Disobeying sign 182(2)

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Thornhill - Bathurst and Clark - Disobeying sign 182(2)

Unread post by Dovaleh on

Hello everyone,

Wondering if I may have a case or argument for this.

Location: Bathurst and Clark.
Season: Winter 2008 / Snowing

I was driving from the 407 southbound down Bathurst St. I was approaching Clark and was in the very right lane needing to go to the Sunoco gas station, so I proceded through the intersection and was going to make the immidiate right into the gas station entrance, until I was stopped by an officer.

I was charged with Disobey Sign - 182(2) as there was a sign on Bathurst St. on the North side of Clark stating "RIGHT LANE MUST TURN RIGHT". The sign is posted / hung on a hydro pole, but several meters before the intersection.

If you drive from the right lane and cross the intersection, there's still a right lane, which includes a bus stop as well as the entrance to the gas station. This right lane ends and eventually merges with the left lane.

Second, I felt as if it would have been the safest approach to go to the gas station as if I had stayed in the left lane, gone through the intersection, it would have given me NO time at all to cut through 2 lanes to make it into the gas station, in which at the same time, a car driving east bound on clark, making a right turn could possibly strike a driver wanting to go to the gas station the "legal way".

Question, how far can a sign be posted to apply as a rule in a specific location? For example, I'm assuming that same sign can't be applied 1 km before that intersection for me to know that? So is there anywhere in the that states that?

Do I have any other argument for this? Regardless of the "safer approach to go to the gas station" I still disobeyed the sign posted across the intersection.

Anyone?


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Unread post by hwybear on

clarity for others from google maps

SB on Bathurst prior to Clark
- designated left turn lane
- L1 straight thru
- L2 straight thru
- designated right turn lane (right turn pavement markings, yellow sign "right lane exits", regulation black/whi right turn arrow)

SB on Bathurst after Clark
- L1 straight thru
- L2 straight thru
- merge lane (approx 100m) long
Above is merely a suggestion/thought and in no way constitutes legal advice or views of my employer. www.OHTA.ca


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Unread post by hwybear on

Dovaleh wrote:Wondering if I may have a case or argument for this.

Location: Bathurst and Clark.
Season: Winter 2008 / Snowing
think its a little too late for any arguement?
Last edited by hwybear on Sat Jan 23, 2010 8:16 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Unread post by Dovaleh on

I haven't had my court yet. Its on Feb. 18th (less than a month from now).


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Unread post by racer on

You have an excellent chance of having the charge stayed if you make a proper 11B argument - dismiss the charge based on delay, instead of proving that point in court.




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