This is unfortunate. But I'll cast my perspective on this... At most collisions these days civilians get to go to the Collision Reporting Center, no charges are laid and life moves forward. Officers like this fellow, have a police investigation, get charged, also get charged under the Police Service Act for Discreditable Conduct and generally demoted (loss of pay of about $10,000) for a year, this prevents them from promotion for 5 years (~$10,000 per year) and having raised the ire of their commands staff don't get considered for placement in specialty units. I suppose we should expect officers to be perfect, and to some degree we do. Or at least to some degree, lead by example. But they are people too. We all forget that too often. I could see if this was an incredibly rare scenario we could say bad cop! But it happens from time to time so perhaps we have to accept that they are people and people often use bad judgement. We all do, otherwise this forum wouldn't exist (I think it was good judgment to implement www.ohta.ca, but it's here cause we often use bad judgement! LOL!) And way too many people here spout about police being 'Judge, Jury and Executioner', I have to laugh at this. There isn't any sanction that an officer can hand out that isn't subject to proper judicial review. There has never once in the history of Canada has an officer been a judge, even sat on a jury (they are exempt from jury duty) and well, we haven't had an executioner in decades. So let's chill with the hyperbole... I think a lot of people get upset cause they believe officers get away with stuff...having spent 22 years in policing I can assure you officers face more discipline than the public sees. For things the public wouldn't get punished for. When these officers are punished it's seldom lightly, but internal discipline doesn't often make the papers. The entire concept of law is to punish bad behaviour and in doing so act as a deterent to others. In many places in the world stealing results in getting your hand lopped off...pretty severe huh? And yet people continue to steal in these countries...so no matter the punishment people will be people. It's the same with the HTA, no matter how severe the punishments, people will speed, drive carelessly, talk & text etc... So the best system we have is progressive discipline, i.e. points, insurance rates and suspensions. I'm certain this officer was sanctioned, in fact I'm sure it was severe. Police administrators are very embarassed by this type of boneheaded driving and the resulting publicity and monetary costs. They punish severely. I suppose we could argue that he should be fired. But that doesn't fit into progressive discipline as adopted under the Police Services Act, a government regulation. Don't get me wrong, aside from punishments, he has set himself up for dismissal should he do something this dumb again. Would you get canned from you job at Pizza Pizza etc for doing this? Yes! But they could can you for being late to work once. That's not how government (and because of that employees of all levels of government have certain rights and we all know how many people cling to their 'rights' in court) works. In the end, this appears to be a dumb-dumb head move which I am 100% that was punished. Moreso than if you had been driving.
This is unfortunate. But I'll cast my perspective on this...
At most collisions these days civilians get to go to the Collision Reporting Center, no charges are laid and life moves forward.
Officers like this fellow, have a police investigation, get charged, also get charged under the Police Service Act for Discreditable Conduct and generally demoted (loss of pay of about $10,000) for a year, this prevents them from promotion for 5 years (~$10,000 per year) and having raised the ire of their commands staff don't get considered for placement in specialty units.
I suppose we should expect officers to be perfect, and to some degree we do. Or at least to some degree, lead by example.
But they are people too. We all forget that too often. I could see if this was an incredibly rare scenario we could say bad cop! But it happens from time to time so perhaps we have to accept that they are people and people often use bad judgement. We all do, otherwise this forum wouldn't exist (I think it was good judgment to implement www.ohta.ca, but it's here cause we often use bad judgement! LOL!)
And way too many people here spout about police being 'Judge, Jury and Executioner', I have to laugh at this. There isn't any sanction that an officer can hand out that isn't subject to proper judicial review. There has never once in the history of Canada has an officer been a judge, even sat on a jury (they are exempt from jury duty) and well, we haven't had an executioner in decades. So let's chill with the hyperbole...
I think a lot of people get upset cause they believe officers get away with stuff...having spent 22 years in policing I can assure you officers face more discipline than the public sees. For things the public wouldn't get punished for.
When these officers are punished it's seldom lightly, but internal discipline doesn't often make the papers.
The entire concept of law is to punish bad behaviour and in doing so act as a deterent to others.
In many places in the world stealing results in getting your hand lopped off...pretty severe huh? And yet people continue to steal in these countries...so no matter the punishment people will be people.
It's the same with the HTA, no matter how severe the punishments, people will speed, drive carelessly, talk & text etc...
So the best system we have is progressive discipline, i.e. points, insurance rates and suspensions.
I'm certain this officer was sanctioned, in fact I'm sure it was severe.
Police administrators are very embarassed by this type of boneheaded driving and the resulting publicity and monetary costs. They punish severely.
I suppose we could argue that he should be fired. But that doesn't fit into progressive discipline as adopted under the Police Services Act, a government regulation.
Don't get me wrong, aside from punishments, he has set himself up for dismissal should he do something this dumb again.
Would you get canned from you job at Pizza Pizza etc for doing this? Yes!
But they could can you for being late to work once.
That's not how government (and because of that employees of all levels of government have certain rights and we all know how many people cling to their 'rights' in court) works.
In the end, this appears to be a dumb-dumb head move which I am 100% that was punished.
Moreso than if you had been driving.