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Sometimes I find it helps to use an extreme example to make a point.

Let's say the officer charged me with 1,228 km/hr in a 50 zone. I plead not guilty to 1,228 and I put myself on the stand and testify that I was only traveling 80 in a 50. I know this to be a 100% true statement beyond a reasonable doubt because the officer testified under cross ...

Not really sure which one has the opinion, since II had the benefit of thespeedometer. Your point about taking the stand is well taken. Will just have to see how that goes. I remain skeptical about a conviction for 72 being fait acompli because I admit to 59.

That's an easy skill to learn if you are using radar or lidar regularly and be within +/- 5 km/h ever time.
He was off by 26 kph.

However I don't think he's that incompetent. He pulled in behind me and realized that he missed his chance because I was already down to ~45-50 from 59. So he just bided his time and got me outside of town. Made sure ...

Jsherk, He said he could tell just by looking because he is that good From the time I crested the hill and came into view to the intersection is ~40 meters. That is less than 2 seconds at 85 kph. Not much of a tracking history.

Anyone would have to be INSANE to enter town at that speed. Pic below is taken from the officer's exact vantage point ...

It's just one signal (beam). The easiest way to explain it is: The strongest signal returned is used as the patrol speed of the police vehicle and the second strongest signal is the target.
Inside the radar, the single signal actually gets split to do the calculation of a patrol speed and target speed.
Ok well then I must have been a pretty ...

My guy was sitting at a stop sign as I passed in front of him, allegedly at approx 80-85 kph in a 50. His notes say that he turned right, activated same direction and locked my speed at 72 when he was 30-40 meters behind me and his patrol speed was 60 kph.

1. How long does it take to activate same direction? I understand he has to press and hold a ...

Stanton, ....comes back at a different frequency......I see. That's why the tuning forks were used to check the target acquisition accuracy. Thanks.

EDIT:I can't get my head around how the something as simple as target speed can change the frequency of a radar signal. Gonna have to google how radar works in a little depth.

Screech....Ok so the ...

That's why I'm here. They are no doubt thumbing through their training manuals as we speak. :)

EDIT: I understand that with moving radar, the radar uses stationary objects to compare the target to, but the same question applies. Is it possible that the extra time and distance that the signal must travel from the rear of trailer to rear of truck ...

All radar talk seems to be about how "the beam" contacts and object and then it gets returned or reflected off that target back to the antenna and the time it takes for this to happen results in a speed. or something like that.

What if "the beam" gets split in half? In your expert opinions, could a radar beam/signal get messed up when the officer ...

So a NEW trial then...not an appeal of the first trial/conviction?

I can't wait to see how this goes (drips with sarcasm)

Judge: Let me understand this. The crown offered you 65 in a 50 twice and you turned it down twice. Then you don't show up for your trial. And now you want another one?
Me: Yes, sir.
Judge: Why should I do that?
Me: Because I ...

Received my "notice of time and place of hearing of appeal" in the mail yesterday. What exactly will take place at this hearing?
1.Is it me in front of the judge asking for a new trial?
2. Is it me in front of the judge explaining that I want to appeal that there was an error of law made in the first trial (I hope not).
3. Will the crown be there ...

Yes Stanton, it appear I've misinterpreted the law again. I thought the law was "50 km/hr in a built up area unless otherwise posted ". Since this particular town is posted 50, I (incorrectly) interpreted that this rule applies:

2. (1) Subject to section 4, where a maximum rate of speed other than that prescribed by subsection 128 (1) of the Act ...

yes Jsherk, this is the biggest hurdle I think

Thanks Argyll, I appreciate the input.

I am well aware that my chances are slim, which is why I am representing myself rather than throw good money after bad by hiring counsel. However, as a truck driver and owner of a trucking company, I have been to court more times than I care to remember various counties in ON, NY, PA, QC for various so ...

Thanks Decatur, Screech. Sounds any position data that *might* been available at the time of the stop is long gone. I also requested any dash cam video that might have been recorded but I was told "All disclosure has been given."

Thank

Never been to that site before I thought it was pay for download...... Actually I thought you were getting a cut that's why you linked me there. $8.99 US for 24 hr access. I thought it uncouth to look a gift horse in the mouth so I ponied up so to speak.

I hear you on the legal system. A while back I dropped over $5k on a accident reconstruction ...

another thought;

I was pulling a 53 ft long empty flat bed trailer. It seems logical to me that part of the beam was hitting the back of the trailer 40 meters in front of the patrol car and reflecting back whilst another part of the beam was hitting the back of my truck 16 meters father ahead (i.e. 56 meters from the patrol car) and reflecting a ...

Ok so I paid my $10 for the 2010 manual posted (thanks) and now I have a better understanding of how it works. Having a really hard time figuring how he could have locked me in at 72.

-Decatur claims faster/slower is selected automatically.
-I thought I had something with RF interference with all the houses in the area but apparently Genesis 2 ...

I see. Thanks. Is 2010 is outdated now?

Did you get you request granted?

link to decatur brochure here. reference to "slower or faster" is at the bottom of page 1
http://www.decaturelectronics.com/asset ... -12-11.pdf

Amazing how if tuning forks are so obsolete, there are still sold by Decatur. How is anyone supposed to verify the speed of an oncoming vehicle?
http://www.decaturelectronics.com/products/tuning-forks.html

Pretty sad, how we can't get operator manuals. I requested disclosure and got only the test procedure, which is a joke. I went to the police ...

OK so I went to see the clerk about applying for a re-opening even though I was pretty sure I had no chance. The trial/conviction date was approx 10 weeks ago. Sure enough she said:

1. You are too late. You only have 15 days to apply for a re-opening.
2. You have already applied for a new trial, and been given your appeal date therefore I have ...

I will scan, redact and post some info. Thanks.

I found this interesting text from another thread on this forum. It seems like exactly what happened to me (i.e. the large moving object in front of the patrol car would be the tractor trailer that I was driving at 40-50 km/hr by the time he was following me). Any comments from forum members versed ...

From the Decatur website, I have obtained the specs from the Decatur Genesis II Select. Under the heading "Computer - Speed Ranges" what does the following mean?

Moving Mode Same Direction - Target (Slower or Faster)
From the user's selected minimum speed separation up to 75% of patrol speed"

So the officers notes themselves do not show that it was tested at 9:30 prior to commencement of enforcement action? Only in the summary from the prosecutor?
I can't be sure what's in officer's notes prior to the time of my ticket. All notes prior to the time of my stop at 12:42 pm have been redacted or were not provided. Notes after the stop say ...

If the officer is lying, I do not see any way you can prove he lied. Your only chance is to maybe bring reasonable doubt to the device reading. Do notes say he tested it both before AND after your stop.
I was pulled over at 12:42 pm

Radar evidence rec'd from crown as part of disclosure states that "the radar was tested at 0930 hrs prior to the ...

Is there data available (perhaps within the Decatur Genesis that shows where the radar unit was (i.e. lat/long) when the speed was recorded?

At roadside, I told the officer that I was doing 59 when he first saw me crest the hill. Is my roadside statement admissable?

Excellent points about the re opening. I will visit the clerk tomorrow.

I understand by suggesting the Taurus cruiser couldn't be fast enough basically amounts to calling the officer a liar. I have been told never to put a judge in the position of calling a cop a liar. Unfortunately, that is what my evidence will suggest. After presenting my ...