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Plea to non-HTA offence? Or non moving violation?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 5:50 pm 
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Hello all,

What are the chances of getting a prosecutor to actually change the charge to a non motor vehicle related offence? Or even, say, a dirty plate (if that wouldn't affect my insurance?)

Thanks!!


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:14 pm 
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Practically zero.

The reduced charge usually has to be in the same category and somewhat relevant to the original charge.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:44 pm 
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http://assets.ibc.ca/Documents/Brochure ... FAQ-ON.pdf

Insurance companies have three categories: minor, major and serious. Dirty plate would be under the minor category and can still increase your rates. Speeding +49km/hr and driving with dirty plate could still be under the "minor category". They don't set different premiums for moving and non-moving convictions; if you're charged under the HTA, it's all the same.

Companies like State Farm will cancel your policy if you collect 3 minor convictions within the same window. Major and Serious convictions will generally result in your policy getting cancelled or +100% surcharges so that you will cancel.

If your charge is related to a sign, there's a small chance they could amend it to the by-law for the sign. It never hurts to ask, but you will not get an amendment to a completely unrelated charge.


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Thanks for the advice!

Anyone know the complete ins and outs for Allstate? It seems as though I won't take a hit for a single minor offense, but not sure about a second one.

I've been trying to clean up my act (successful!) but mistakes can happen (both by the OPP and myself!)


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In the USA a lot of the prosecutors will offer to exchange your driving charge to a parking violation charge (with same fine amount) in exchange for a guilty plea.

However I have never heard of that happening in Canada. Either they are not allowed to do it, or just won't.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:52 am 
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Jonny042 wrote:
Anyone know the complete ins and outs for Allstate? It seems as though I won't take a hit for a single minor offense, but not sure about a second one.

I don't have any details re: how Allstate treats convictions, but I discovered that my insurance company provides a "conviction free discount" of 15%. In other words, a single conviction will result in losing the 15% discount. Of course, additional convictions will result in further premium increases, but I found the "conviction free discount" an interesting twist.


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