Ok... so I was having a cocktail yesterday and I remember that it was out of Ontario that the law got struck down... Quebec I think because they had aerial surveillance for years.

Thats when Ontario took it out. I have been on CanLII but the Quebec ruling are obviously in French. I will get a girl I know in Montreal to check it out for me… I still need to go to the library and check it out there… Im sure its out there somewhere!!

Ill keep you posted.

I totally understand the logic of the average speed argument... I'm just saying that I'm absolutely sure it was struck down 20+ years ago becuase the judge decided that it was not sufficient to sustain the charge.

That's when all the airplanes went away until recently.

Do you guys know of a site I can do research at?

Yes, they were painted markings on the road at fixed distances and they used a stopwatch to time you between the lines.

Sorry, I know this may be out of scope for this forum but there is a lot of knowledge here so I thought I might try to tap it. Im an Ontarian and was in Montreal recently on the Ville Marie (a 3-lane highway) I was doing 120k and when the guy zipped me with a lidar gun I was shocked to learn that the speed limit was 70 (I thought it was 100 because everybody is going 110). The ticket was get this $720 plus 10 POINTS!!! Ouch!!! Since I was an Anglo with Ontario plates no break not 1 fin click off. Annnnyway, I hired a traffic lawyer to help me negotiate a deal and he FORGOT TO FILE ANY PAPERS I...

I'm a newbie so go easy on me. I found this forum and did some reading yesterday and found it pretty interesting. My question/query is this... I am old enough to remember when aircraft were used "back in the day" all the way along the 401 and they went away for many years until recently. I am ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN (although I can't site the case) that aircraft went away because the law was essentially struck down. This is because the judge ruled that... I'm going to paraphrase... that since the aircraft was timing a car between two fixed points, they could not pinpoint any exact speed a...