Not true. You really should stop trying to provide advice The information I gave is correct. 7 days the suspension is considered served but even that isn't true. Its actually 8 days because you don't count the mailing day. You meet the criteria either way. No, the information you provided is absolutely not correct. You can not take one little piece of legislation, and just ignore parts that say 'unless'. Exclusions are there for a reason, and that reason is to protect the innocent. I do not meet the criteria, because, as I mentioned before: Deemed date of service (2) Notice sent by registered...

hwybear wrote:

btwilliger wrote:?

Yes, I realise it is 'nothing special', that's why I said it is 'customary'..

sorry bt...had only seen being "used in my case"

No worries, I see you help with a lot of info on here, including quite a bit of help you provided earlier to me.

Thanks for that. Misreads will happen.

You are in court for failing to pay fines and as a result your licence was suspended. No, not at all. I am not in court for failing to pay fines and having my license suspended. At all. Period. Had you paid the fine you wouldn't have been suspended. Quite true. However, I am not in court for failing to pay fines. I am in court for driving while suspended. There are dozens of ways to end up with a suspended license... and that is all I am in court for. The suspension just didn't just recently happen. You just recently got caught. At no point in time did I said it just happened. No one is huffy...

hwybear wrote:

btwilliger wrote:. It is quite customary for the crown to ask for a certified copy of the suspension letter, and they are doing so in my case.

It is not just your case, the certified copy of MTO documents is used for everyone, whether it be unpaid fines/demerit points/child support/unlicenced, expired plates, use plates not authorized etc ....so nothing special...nothing new, same old routine for police/crown/courts.

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Yes, I realise it is 'nothing special', that's why I said it is 'customary'.

However, those documents are key to the crown's case, and also key to my defense.

No it doesn't. You should have just paid your fines. You know you got the tickets and you know you didn't pay them so its no one else's fault. Actually, your reasoning is not sound. It is quite customary for the crown to ask for a certified copy of the suspension letter, and they are doing so in my case. If they are asking for a certified copy of that letter, then clearly that letter being sent is of some importance. What is important here, is whether or not it was reasonable for me to be unaware of THE SUSPENSION. I am not in court for failing to pay fines. I am in court for driving with a s...

Once you have a licence in Ontario in remains for life. You can turn the licence in, but all details on MTO remain intact. Unpaid fines still remain against the Ontario licence until paid. So your licence would have said 2 things on it when the officer checked: expired licence and suspended. A driver has 6 days to notify the MTO of a change of address. If a person say from Alberta (with Alberta DL) gets stopped and charged, then convicted, an Ontario Drivers Licence is generated to keep track of the outstanding fines and convictions. If not paid the licence status for the generated Ontario li...

I have an unusual situation. I was traveling down the 401, noticed a speed trap, and started flashing my lights -- in order to warn oncoming drivers. Within a 30 seconds, a car slowed, crossed the grass, and approached me from behind. Lights appeared, and I then realised that this was an officer in an undercover car. The officer pulled me over, and while he was polite, clearly his motivation was to 'get that guy' that was warning oncoming traffic of speeders. We discussed things for a while, with me making it clear that I find the inane speeding laws to be beyond reproach. All in all, it was a...