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Re: Turning Right on a Red light 144.18

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:06 am
by Reflections

So next traffic stop I have all I have to do is subliminally mention "TIMS" 15 to 20 times and the officer will thank me for my time and tell me to be on my way???????????????


Re: Turning Right on a Red light 144.18

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 9:55 am
by Bookm

I'm turning right on a Red unless there's a sign specifically stating not to. It's what people behind me would expect me to do, and being predictable is usually the safe thing to do and decreases the chance of road rage.

Note: We have ONE intersection in town that says "No right on red" and is meant to deter drivers from using a certain side-street. It was put up to pacify a bunch of whiny (but influential) residents who felt there were too many cars using "their" road. I'm not sure if disobeying it would be an HTA offence or it it's just a city by-law. Most cars ignore it and turn.

The speed limit on this side-street was also reduced to 40kmh, for no other reason than to appease the residents living there. I'm not sure if a municipality can legally enforce an artificially low speed limit (for reasons other than safely) but I regularly see the local LEO's running radar (*or) laser on it.


Re: Turning Right on a Red light 144.18

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:14 pm
by hwybear
Bookm wrote:I'm turning right on a Red unless there's a sign specifically stating not to.

just don't whine to the rest of us IF you should ever get a ticket then...you are now well informed!! :)

Bookm wrote: I'm not sure if disobeying it would be an HTA offence or it it's just a city by-law. Most cars ignore it and turn.

HTA charge with 2 demerit points = Disobey sign

Bookm wrote:

The speed limit on this side-street was also reduced to 40kmh, for no other reason than to appease the residents living there. I'm not sure if a municipality can legally enforce an artificially low speed limit (for reasons other than safely) but I regularly see the local LEO's running radar of laser on it.

Absolutely enforceable, and municipalities can set their own speed limits. HTA 128(2)


Re: Turning Right on a Red light 144.18

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:58 am
by Bookm
hwybear wrote:
Bookm wrote:I'm turning right on a Red unless there's a sign specifically stating not to.

just don't whine to the rest of us IF you should ever get a ticket then...you are now well informed!! :)

NP.. I obey the sign. But I was once honked at, from behind, to get going (groan).


Re: Turning Right on a Red light 144.18

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:28 pm
by racer
hwybear wrote:
Bookm wrote: I'm not sure if disobeying it would be an HTA offence or it it's just a city by-law. Most cars ignore it and turn.

HTA charge with 2 demerit points = Disobey sign

And what would be the OHTA subsection for that?


Re: Turning Right on a Red light 144.18

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:54 pm
by hwybear
racer wrote:
hwybear wrote:
Bookm wrote: I'm not sure if disobeying it would be an HTA offence or it it's just a city by-law. Most cars ignore it and turn.

HTA charge with 2 demerit points = Disobey sign

And what would be the OHTA subsection for that?

HTA 182(2) Signs also must be in listed in Regulations to be enforced...most of those are in Ont. Reg. 615