New No Right Turn Sign During Certain Time

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New No Right Turn Sign During Certain Time

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Hi all,


I just got a $110 ticket (and reading here, 2 demerit points?) for a right turn during a restricted time.


I've been taking this route to work for 10 years and I didn't notice that the signs went up about a month ago. I honestly never noticed these new signs. Has anyone been successful in reducing the penalty based on an argument that the simple posting of the new signs was not enough notice?

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New signs don't require notice.


However, there's nothing stopping you from attending an early resolution if that's your plan.

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bend wrote:New signs don't require notice.


However, there's nothing stopping you from attending an early resolution if that's your plan.



We saw this option on the ticket this morning and wondered if it was the option to take in this case.


Anyone have experience with going for an early Resolution?

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At early resolution, the prosecutor will probably reduce the fine (i.e. to $60). If you agree to a reduced fine, you can appear before a justice of the peace on the day of your early resolution meeting and plea guilty to the reduced fine.


They cannot lower demerit points, and there is no lesser offence for the charge of disobey sign. The only thing that can be lowered is the fine.

You can try to ask to plea guilty to a bylaw offence (if applicable in your jurisdiction).

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One alternate offence that doesn't carry points is Fail to Proceed. I believe it's subsection 144 (12). I've seen this used a few times in place of Disobey Sign or Improper Turn.

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I could be wrong with the section/subsection, but I have seen a prosecutor offer Fail to Proceed in lieu of an improper or prohibited turn. It's also possible some of the designations/short forms have changed; I couldn't find a simple "Fail to Proceed" when I searched yesterday.

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