I was driving on Hwy 7 the sign that was posted was 50kmph. I was going 70kmph since the car in front of me was doing the same speed. Apparently, I was being tailed by a cop and after a few seconds the cop pulls me over. She tells me that I was speeding and that she has video that shows how fast her cruiser was going while tailing me.
Disobey Sign 182(2) and a fine of $110
Will I have a chance in court since she did not clock my speed on a radar gun? Will the cop be able to use the video as evidence in court?
To secure a conviction the prosecutor will have the officer testify that you were going faster that the posted speed limit. So if she was tailing you going 70 in a posted 50 and has video evidence to back up her claim then that should do it. If the disclosure is in order and the officer is present on the day of trial you can always plead guilty and pay the fine, or go to trial to get some experience with the process and get your $110 dollars worth.
Yes the officer can use video evidence in court.
I would choose NOT GUILTY option and request a trial with the officer present. Once you get your notice of trial, then you request disclosure which will include the officers notes and copy of the video. If they do not provide the video with disclosure, then they can not use it in court (or you can object if they try to).
1) She doesn't show up.
2) She doesn't actually have a video? And she used her speedometer to gauge my speed.
3) If she does have a video - can I argue on the accuracy of the speed?
My goal is to not have this show up on my driver's abstract.
The video does not matter and radar does not matter. Police can charge you with speeding just by tailing/pacing you. Whatever is in the officers notes will be her testimony, so basically she has to testify to (1) what the sign said, and (2) how you disobeyed it. So if notes say there was a 50km/h speed limit sign and she followed you for 5 seconds going faster than that sign then she has said all she needs to say.
R. v. Koumoudouros  O.J. No. 5055: https://anonfiles.com/file/41c5ca1ebd22 ... 6fc53aa600
R. v. Sibio, 2010 ONCJ 315 (CanLII): http://canlii.ca/t/2btl3
R. v. Violi, 2011 ONCJ 788 (CanLII): ttp://canlii.ca/t/fphgw
Off topic: i know for my vehicle that the speedometer over-reads 10%, so 130 indicated on the speedometer is ~115 on the GPS/Radar. I actually rely more on my GPS speedometer than the needle inside my dash.
I brought this to the attention of the dealership, and they told me it was legal to set it up like this. They can legally show you a speed 10% higher + 4km/hr in Europe. Transport Canada has no federal regulations for the accuracy of speedometers.
I've also driven in some vehicles where the speedometer speed was equal to the GPS speed.
So I have a court date in September. I filled out the disclosure request they have provided the officer's notes and a dash cam video.
The video DOES NOT show the cop tailing me - instead, the cop is 100-125 feet behind me (with 2-4 cars in between us). The cop had to speed up to 80 kmph briefly to catch up to me. But by the time the cop caught up I was already at a red light. Hence, why I was just given a disobey sign since the cop could not accurately judge my speed.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
Apologies for the delay... below is the note:jsherk wrote:Can you scan and post the notes (black out personal and officer details)?
It will be interesting to see what sign you supposedly disobeyed!
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The dashcam video may show you going faster than everybody else, but it does not prove you were speeding, so whether they have it or not, is not a big issue.
When you request disclosure, you want to ask for a copy of the officers notes AND a copy of all records related to the calibration and accuracy of the speedometer. In order to prove you disobeyed the sign, the officer is relying on their speedometer, and you therefore you can cross-examine them and ask them for as much information about it's accuracy as possible.
If you did not ask for the speedometer records, then you should send another request ASAP asking for that information as well.