X2Radar Identified wrote:With a charge like careless driving, I'd recommend discussing this with a paralegal. If he bumped or broadsided a car that was stopped while he made the turn, particularly with rainy road conditions, a careless driving charge is not surprising. The consequences of a careless driving conviction are quite severe, particularly with respect to insurance. As far as being able to beat it... it's really difficult to tell.
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A little more details can help us deal with this ticket. the post in not 100% clear with respect to what has actually happened.
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Getting a paralegal for this, for sure.
Sounds like it should have been "Improper Turn" which would be a 2 point ticket, instead of a 6 point ticket that will dramatically affect the insurance for your son.
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Would have also added fail to remain/report accident charge on top.
I know you understand what he says, but stand back and look at the picture from a different angle...Jerazo wrote:He says he had no control ..
18 = very little experience
wet roads = road traction reduced
raining = less visibility
Do not think anyone has mentioned "speeding". However we have mentioned speed toooooooooo fast for conditions which this is.
if the limit is 50km and he was travelling 40km....it is still too fast for conditions if the vehicle was unable to stop, turn etc. If the speed was say reduced to 20km this could have been avoided.
another perspective....it is in February and I'm driving 60-65km/hr on the 401 due to blowing snow, and someone drives by me at 95km/hr, watch them lose it and pooch into the ditch......the person was not "speeding" according to the posted speed limit, however they were driving "too fast for conditions".
there are also factors for hydroplaning
- depth of tread
- width of tire (wider is worse)
- tire pressure
I do about 50% of my driving in a Ford Escort and it has never hydroplaned in the 9 years I've driven it. If he really was going a reasonable speed, then you need to look at your equipment (tires). Tread depth does not have to be at the legal minimum to require replacement. Tires are also only good for 10 years if properly cared for, 5 years otherwise. Tire pressures should be set to the vehicle recommendation, not the sidewall maximum (this changes if you stray from the original load rating).
I spun out on the 401 in my SUV when I was 18. I was keeping up with traffic and doing "what anyone else would do," but the accident was still completely my fault for going faster than my equipment could handle, due to inexperience. I was lucky that it was a single-vehicle crash and I could learn from that experience.
Bang on Squishy!!!Squishy wrote: I was lucky that it was a single-vehicle crash and I could learn from that experience.
Rather than denial, making excuses and blaming anything else other than the person who has their hands on the wheel and foot on the pedal!
You accepted responsibility for your actions, gained experience and learned from it.