So today I got a ticket for Disobeying Stop Sign - Fail to Stop on my way to work. I've never gotten tickets before so this is frustrating me. The officer pulled me over after I drove through a 4-way stop sign intersection in Mississauga, claiming I never stopped and drove right through. My issue is that I did slow down and stop (and I have dashcam footage) however he was adamant that I did not. Also from where he was hiding out, I find it hard to believe he could have seen me "not stop". I will post a link to the dashcam footage I have in this post. I have also emailed the Police Division from where the officer is from to ask if its possible to request the dashcam footage of the officer, as this would help to show his POV. Please do advise if you guys think I have a shot at winning this in trial, as that is what I'm leaning towards and any advice is welcome!!
**In the footage that I've uploaded to YouTube, the officers cruiser is hiding out on the far left side of the intersection. I've uploaded a diagram to attempt to clarify this. My concern is that at one point there are two vehicles impeding the officers view of my vehicle (1:41 of video), and as such, how can he justly claim that he clearly saw my vehicle not stop and drive straight through the intersection?**
Feel free to fast forward to the 1:27 mark
- Diagram of where cop was posted
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If the officer testifies you did not stop and you tried to use that video, I think it would not help and would help the officers case.
There may or may not be video from the officers car. You would request that for disclosure.
Plead Not Guilty and request a trial with the officer present. Once you get your notice of trial with the trial date, then you can request disclsoure (copy of officers notes and dashcam video if there is any).
but I agree with above post.
use at your own risk"
if you put the video directly on the laptop, they may want to keep your laptop as evidence, so it's important to put the video on a usb stick so you can leave the usb stick and take your laptop back home with you.
Then you send a letter to the prosecutor requesting everything you want to get, something like this:
I would like disclosure of the following items:
- Copy of notes of all officers involved.
- Typed copy of any hand written notes that are hard to read.
- List of any shortforms used in the notes and their meanings.
- Copy of any video/audio that is available from dashcam of vehicle or officers personal body camera.
You can also Google the following for more information:
ontario disclosure template
My preferred method of delivery is FAX because you can print off the FAX SENT OK report as proof you sent it. Mailing works, but gets expensive if you want to send it registered mail as proof you sent it. You can go to court house and drop it off in person as well. Take three copies, one for Clerk of Court, one for Prosecutor and one for yourself to get stamped.
The full response from Peel Police:
"Unfortunately we do not use dash mounted cameras in Peel Region. If you were stopped in another region that uses them you would have to contact them.
The process for obtaining information is relatively the same in all jurisdictions though. If you want information obtained by an officer you would typically make a Ã¢Â€Â˜freedom of informationÃ¢Â€Â™ request through the records department."
Yes freedom of information requests are possible, but if it relates to a charge then you ask for it in disclosure instead.