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New No Right Turn sign during certain time

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:20 pm
by Moonman
Hi all,

I just got a $110 ticket (and reading here, 2 demerit points?) for a right turn during a restricted time.

I've been taking this route to work for 10 years and I didn't notice that the signs went up about a month ago. I honestly never noticed these new signs. Has anyone been successful in reducing the penalty based on an argument that the simple posting of the new signs was not enough notice?

Re: New No Right Turn sign during certain time

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:59 pm
by bend
New signs don't require notice.

However, there's nothing stopping you from attending an early resolution if that's your plan.

Re: New No Right Turn sign during certain time

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:35 am
by Moonman
bend wrote:New signs don't require notice.

However, there's nothing stopping you from attending an early resolution if that's your plan.

We saw this option on the ticket this morning and wondered if it was the option to take in this case.

Anyone have experience with going for an early Resolution?

Re: New No Right Turn sign during certain time

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:13 pm
by Whenaxis
At early resolution, the prosecutor will probably reduce the fine (i.e. to $60). If you agree to a reduced fine, you can appear before a justice of the peace on the day of your early resolution meeting and plea guilty to the reduced fine.

They cannot lower demerit points, and there is no lesser offence for the charge of disobey sign. The only thing that can be lowered is the fine.
You can try to ask to plea guilty to a bylaw offence (if applicable in your jurisdiction).

Re: New No Right Turn sign during certain time

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:37 pm
by Zatota
One alternate offence that doesn't carry points is Fail to Proceed. I believe it's subsection 144 (12). I've seen this used a few times in place of Disobey Sign or Improper Turn.

Re: New No Right Turn sign during certain time

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:24 pm
by screeech
144(12) has to do with green lights...I can't see a prosecutor taking that one...

Re: New No Right Turn sign during certain time

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:25 am
by Zatota
I could be wrong with the section/subsection, but I have seen a prosecutor offer Fail to Proceed in lieu of an improper or prohibited turn. It's also possible some of the designations/short forms have changed; I couldn't find a simple "Fail to Proceed" when I searched yesterday.