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by RTRob72
Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:10 pm
Forum: General Talk
Topic: Links to AI-013
Replies: 22
Views: 3093

Re: Links to AI-013

Also, follow up question ...

Would there be any usefulness in asking for disclosure on the Officers Injury (nature) or when/why the detachment would have notified the Prosecutor or the court about his inability to make it to court?

Thanks
by RTRob72
Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:15 pm
Forum: General Talk
Topic: Links to AI-013
Replies: 22
Views: 3093

Re: Links to AI-013

Well, I was in court today. I checked in with the Prosecutor and stated my intent for a trial I waited through 2 breaks for the Pros to only call my name during the 2nd break and tell me the Officer was injured over a week ago and they would be moving for an adjournment unless I wanted to take a 1 t...
by RTRob72
Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:43 pm
Forum: General Talk
Topic: Links to AI-013
Replies: 22
Views: 3093

Re: Links to AI-013

I'm not in a position to give any legal advice about that subject. You may bring it up to the prosecutor but they would probably consider it evidence and not really want to hear it. Ok, thanks.. I was just curious if there was a chance after I disclosed my findings to the Prosecutor - if they might...
by RTRob72
Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:31 pm
Forum: General Talk
Topic: Links to AI-013
Replies: 22
Views: 3093

Re: Links to AI-013

You might want to consider more than just training. If it goes to trial ask about how often the officer actually uses radar. Just because they re qualify every 2 years doesn't mean they use it. I'd rather have an officer requal every 3 years and use it daily than someone who does it every 2 and tak...
by RTRob72
Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:01 pm
Forum: General Talk
Topic: Links to AI-013
Replies: 22
Views: 3093

Re: Links to AI-013

My line of thinking is that the OPP simply do their re qualifications more often than the Province requires. Under Provincial guidelines they are not required to do so. Even if they don't re qualify within the 2 year period I believe they are still qualified to operate speed measuring devices in On...
by RTRob72
Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:15 pm
Forum: General Talk
Topic: Links to AI-013
Replies: 22
Views: 3093

Re: Links to AI-013

Considering that the "2011 Policy Services Manual" and the new standard are both dated 2011 it is possible that the OPP revised their manual prior to the new standard being issued? The only way to find out whether the officer was "qualified" to operate a speed measuring device w...
by RTRob72
Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:34 pm
Forum: General Talk
Topic: Links to AI-013
Replies: 22
Views: 3093

Re: Links to AI-013

The Provincial Standard is now 36 months. The 2004 version was replaced in 2011. All police agencies in Ontario follow this standard. Some PSB sites may not have updated to reflect these recent changes. As far as I'm aware, the only way to get a true copy of the standard is to do the FOI request th...
by RTRob72
Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:26 pm
Forum: General Talk
Topic: Links to AI-013
Replies: 22
Views: 3093

Re: Links to AI-013

Thanks Viper. I think your reference is 2004. I have found a 2011 copy and things have significantly changed since the 2004 revision !!! The 2011 version differentiates - Operator, Instructor, & Master Trainer. Refresher training for all speed measuring devices is 36 months for an Operator, and ...
by RTRob72
Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:20 am
Forum: General Talk
Topic: Links to AI-013
Replies: 22
Views: 3093

Re: Links to AI-013

AI-013 is a Provincial document, not a specific police agency standard. The Provincial standard for re-qualification of an operator is 36 months. 60 months for an Instructor. At this moment I have never seen a current copy of the Provincial Standard AI-013 online. They are all the old standard. Jus...
by RTRob72
Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:59 am
Forum: General Talk
Topic: Links to AI-013
Replies: 22
Views: 3093

Re: Links to AI-013

York Regional Police Standard Policy Manual currently online (updated 15/08/2013) and Brantford currently posted AI-013 states 24 months re-certification. How do you know the current standard is 36 months? The case R. v. Araujo (2008) states under examination the OPP std is 24 months. I have asked f...
by RTRob72
Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:49 pm
Forum: General Talk
Topic: Links to AI-013
Replies: 22
Views: 3093

Links to AI-013

Hi, Looking for some help, if anyone could point to a link/etc ... to the current OPP Policy manual specifically AI-013? I have found links to the Brantford, York Regional PSB web sites, but for some reason the OPP.ca does not seem to have this information. I would request as disclosure, but my tria...
by RTRob72
Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:33 pm
Forum: Exceeding the speed limit by 30 to 49 km/h
Topic: Disclosure received. Looking for some help/advice.
Replies: 3
Views: 1392

Re: Disclosure received. Looking for some help/advice.

As a follow-up I was reading case law today on the Laser Atlantic (topic) I found R. v. Araujo [2008]. In the detailed notes of the cross examination the officer testifies that the OPP policy is to re-certify on LIDAR every 24 months. If that is the case, then from the notes on my disclosure - the O...
by RTRob72
Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:10 pm
Forum: Exceeding the speed limit by 30 to 49 km/h
Topic: Disclosure received. Looking for some help/advice.
Replies: 3
Views: 1392

Disclosure received. Looking for some help/advice.

Looking for some help, received my disclosure today (see below). http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7442/9565991830_9611b0441e_z.jpg In addition to the note, I received a copy of the testing pages of the Laser Atlanta 'Speed Atlanta' manual. I can understand the notes to the most part, Not sure what the ...
by RTRob72
Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:25 pm
Forum: Exceeding the speed limit by 30 to 49 km/h
Topic: Not sure what to do, looking for advice
Replies: 2
Views: 1098

Re: Not sure what to do, looking for advice

Not from London, so would probably just have to call in to the Prov. Off. office... I just wasn't sure if it was better to 'nose' around or wait (in hopes that some small chance something fell through the cracks and my file has been neglected or something?) :lol: I suspect with the OPP and the elect...
by RTRob72
Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:22 pm
Forum: Exceeding the speed limit by 30 to 49 km/h
Topic: Not sure what to do, looking for advice
Replies: 2
Views: 1098

Not sure what to do, looking for advice

I was ticketed early December on the 401 near London and to-date have not received a notice of trial. I promptly sent my request for trial <15 days after the incident and I requested a signature upon delivery (which I have). What should I do, wait and see, or should I be proactive and call the Provi...

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