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Re: NEW Durham Police Electronically Printed Tickets Fatal Error
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:49 pm
by Bookm
Too bad the internet wasn't around when I was a teen. I could have used a tutorial on court proceedings on my first visit (17 years old at the time). My mother was close friends with a local JP (didn't even know what that was at the time, LOL). She overheard my griping about my latest ticket and calmly explained that if I have some issue with the charge I should have it heard by the court. So I went as a total newb! Spoke out inappropriately at times, questioned who this mean guy was making derogatory comments beside me (the Crown, LOL), etc. But as green as I was, I still managed to WIN that first case. Actually, I think the JP took pity on me and found a way to help me win by quoting specifics from the HTA that I should have been reciting myself <chuckle>.
After several later visits, I have become fairly comfortable with the proceedings. I have found that as long as I mind my manners and don't offend the JP, they seem to be "rooting for the little guy", and rule quite fairly. The only case I lost was when an actual judge sat in that day. It's clear he saw me pull in earlier in my jacked-up hot rod because he found me guilty the second he asked me if that was my orange car in the parking lot, LOL. I felt very much offended by that decision. It's one I was certain I would win. 28 years later and I'm still mad!
So now I encourage all my friends, family and co-workers to try it at least once, so they learn the process and know better how to prepare for the next time 
Re: NEW Durham Police Electronically Printed Tickets Fatal Error
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:28 pm
by Reflections
Allan E. Scott's "Fight that Ticket in Ontario
Required reading for "Law in everyday life" at Gerogian College in Barrie.
Re: NEW Durham Police Electronically Printed Tickets Fatal Error
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:57 am
by ticketcombat
Although we have been off on several tangents I want to draw us back to Radarscam's original question in this thread about electronic tickets. I found the regulation under the POA: ELECTRONIC DOCUMENTS, O. Reg. 497/94.
According to section 2(1) A document is properly signed in an electronic format if the document contains a code, name or number of a person that is capable of identifying the person as the originator of the document and the code, name or number.
In other words, no original signature required. It's a beginner's mistake and I should know better: check the regs, not just the Act! So radarscam, allow me to eat humble pie and apologize for originally suggesting you had a fatal error.
If you can tell me what the charge is, perhaps I can redeem myself with suggesting other methods of attacking the ticket.
Re: NEW Durham Police Electronically Printed Tickets Fatal Error
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:13 pm
by hwybear
ticketcombat wrote: So radarscam, allow me to eat humble pie and apologize for originally suggesting you had a fatal error.
I worked hard on this for you ticketcombat 

Re: NEW Durham Police Electronically Printed Tickets Fatal Error
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 2:18 pm
by ticketcombat
That's a good looking pie! I didn't know you could bake 