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Merge is a popular term. I think I've even seen some merge signs. But it's not a valid sign and there is no provsion dealing with "merge" and I think the word merge is only ued once in the entire HTA.

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But "turn to the left" is confusing when you are referring to lane changes. :P


What are the provisions for painted lane markings for designated lanes? Many times I see no erected signs anywhere, just painted arrows on the ground itself. Valid?

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The sign regulation makes no mention of surface painted lines with respect to designated lanes. It does provide for road marking for crosswalks and crossovers. It seems odd that surface painted lines is covered.


But now that I read the regulation, I'm convicnced that upwards of 90% of the crosswalks and crossovers are not enforcable because the proper road surface marking are never included.


I assum if there is no signs at all, but only turning arrows on a centre lane of a three lane highway, that centre lane can be used for passing as the required over head sign are not in place.


In respect to the discussion about the left most lane, I Just found this as well, which limits the use of trucks in the leftmost lane, but sign must bbe posted overhead. If not overhead to the left of the lane. I don't recall seeing these signs to the leftmost lane on the 400 or 401, but maybe they're there and I just didn't notice them since I wasn't driving a truck.


http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/regs/e ... 0608_e.htm
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Signs are present on overhead bridges, though don't think they are bilingual in the GTA. I have only seen the "This lane" sign a few times - most of them are overhead.

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What's you take on stop signs. Stop signs at a 4 way stop intersection are not required by law to have the "ALL WAY" tag attached below the sign. If a municipality elects to add the "ALL WAY" tag and they do not add the Bilingual "ALL WAY" tag, does it invalidate the stop sign all together, or just the "ALL WAY" tag?

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With Ontarios new Speed Limiter amendment to the HTA (commercial vehicles) Section 68.1 (1) No person shall drive, or permit the operation of a commercial motor vehicle unless the vehicle is equippped with a speed limiting systym that is activated and functioning in accordance with the regulations.


heres the situation in regards to the lanes (in my humble opinion :lol:


driving a tractor trailer heres my ettiquette rule on the 401 in Toronto


I drive in the right lane. I know theres a on ramp ahead. I move to the centre lane to allow any merging traffic to enter. I signal and move back.

Left Lane------>>>> Trucks have no buisness being there-unless you are LESS than 6.5m.

HOWEVER--there is an exception to the Left lane rule :idea:

eg: Kennedy Road 401 west bound---I get over to the Left Lane (collectors) so i can flow into the express right lane. because (a) If I am transferring into the express-no where in the act says at what DISTANCE that I can go into the left lane to safely merge into the express.

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I tend not to follow lane etiquette at all in the 401 collectors - it's just too difficult. If I need to get over to Express, I'm in the left hand following the flow, one of the few times I might get up to 140 km/h. If I need to exit a few ramps down, I try to keep to the centre and drive at whichever speed keeps me with the flow, or keeps me going reasonably faster than the lane to the right - otherwise I'll find myself quickly funnelled out onto some random road.


As for those stop signs, going by the word of the law, I would say that an English-only "All Way" sign invalidates the entire stop sign. However, the red stop sign shape is universally known in Canada as a stop sign, no excuse for not knowing what it means. I'm not a fan of the designated bilingual areas in general; this is Ontario, not Quebec. Next thing we'll have Chinese signs in Toronto and Polish signs in Mississauga.

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