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Statistics: Posted by Nachos23 — Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:47 am
Post a picture of a ticket. If indeed a the speed says 105 and the fine is incorrect, I believe this will be a fatal error. Post a picture and we can help more.Hi,
I received a speeding ticket last night from the OPP (stationary OPP 4x4 on side of highway using radar) where I was clocked @ 134kph.
The ticket indicates that I was going 105 in 100kph zone (cop meant to drop to 15 over; not 5 over), but the fine indicated on ticket is for 15kph over.
The ticket does indicate that the ticket was reduced from 134.
So he question is... Is the fact that the speed over and associated fine not matching be enough to void the ticket?
If I fight it, will/can they go after me for the original 134kph?
Any advice would be appreciated!! Thanks!
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This is incorrect...Remember that anything 16 km/h or more over the posted speed limit has demerit points, although these don't affect your rates - just your driving record itself.
Statistics: Posted by bobajob — Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:21 am
This is incorrect...Remember that anything 16 km/h or more over the posted speed limit has demerit points, although these don't affect your rates - just your driving record itself.
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Technically, you're supposed to inform your insurance provider yourself. It's a part of policy terms. I'm not going to pretend anyone anyone does this (no one does).Question: my insurance is with allstate and after receiving the ticket and this is my first ever offence, I was wondering if I just pay the offence and don't inform insurance, will this all in all affect my insurance I currently have and will my insurance find out about this? Anyone that has allstate too can you advise me on this?
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Statistics: Posted by tdottopcop — Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:29 pm
I am not sure where your dislike for police stems from.If you notice a speed trap and you really just don't like the police - is it against the law - like obstruction of justice - to point out to others that there is a speed trap up ahead?
Can you circle around and stop somewhere ahead of the trap and hold a sign saying cops ahead or something?
-Just curious.
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I think it would help. That would hopefully cut down on the following too close, merge problems, keep right except passing, using signals, not waiting to last minute to get off hwy and cutting over 2 other lanes, shoulder drivers etc...
I think that's what Radar Identified was getting at when he mentioned about the much stricter laws over in Europe. They do help a good deal, like with our new stunt driving law.I have seen a huge decrease in "high speeds". The last one that had occassion to get my attention was in August (5 months ago), prior to the change, I would see 1-3 per week.
Really, eh? What time of day was it? I'm usually on the 407 during business hours Monday to Friday. Maybe the OPP has more high speed targets to choose from at those times. I know about the bottom of the hill at keele, I usually boot up the hill, then move to the right and let the incline slow me down while the cars behind me continue flying over the hill . I see them eb and wb around Dufferin/Bathurst a lot too, sitting under the overpasses.manwithaplan i've been pulled over on the 407 doing 147 but for occupational reasons was let off with a warning, [LEO] points to hand-held radar reading 147 and says "please don't do this"
i've had friends pulled over allegedly doing 138 and got it reduced 120 roadside ... almost every traffic stop i see on the 407 comes with included with two cruisers (one supervisor) + tow truck
407 detachment always situate themselves in the SAME place EVERYTIME, so it's just a matter of slowing down in those sections
go into enforced section (EB 407@Keele) ... start braking ... see black&white ... increase braking ... folks behind me, go WTF ... overtake me at 160 ... see the B&W but too late ... say hello to the 172 ... LOL
i agree there should be new legislation for the 407 where they have higher limit but also adjusted fines/demerit points so doing 121 in a 120 zone is the equivalent of doing 121 in a 100 zone ... something like that ... i can see a higher limit being an excuse to drive 170, which is definitely not something i want. i wouldn't feel safe whatsoever if 170 was required for the stunt-tow; we'd have all the 16-17 yr olds killing themselves and ruining it for the rest of us
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I'm of the opinion that the unspoken speed limit on the 407 is 150 km/h, as I've done upwards of 130-140 km/h past cops (who I can see pointing the radar gun at oncoming traffic), and not gotten pulled over. I suspect that they probably catch people doing 50+ over the limit, then reduce the charge to 49 over to get them to pay the ticket instead of fighting it, though I have seen tow trucks included in traffic stops on a couple occasions.If anything, they should raise the limit on the 407. One other statistic: Raising the speed limit has been shown to cause a marked drop in the 99th percentile speed. That means that the people who were going the absolute fastest... actually slowed down.
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I think it would help. That would hopefully cut down on the following too close, merge problems, keep right except passing, using signals, not waiting to last minute to get off hwy and cutting over 2 other lanes, shoulder drivers etc.... Hwybear, do you not agree that if we had higher licencing standards more severe penalties here, things would not be better?
I have seen a huge decrease in "high speeds". The last one that had occassion to get my attention was in August (5 months ago), prior to the change, I would see 1-3 per week..
Let me ask you this, in your honest opinion, since the stunt driving law was imposed (much stiffer penalties like impounded car, high fines, suspension etc) have you or your colleagues noticed a decrease in people travelling in excess of 50 km/h over the limit? If you haven't noticed a decrease, what other factors (if any) have been involved in this type of situation?
Statistics: Posted by hwybear — Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:14 am
however, from the posts I have read, those other countries have way higher standards in even obtaining a licence and the penalties for violations are severe.The point that has been presented is simply this - governing the speed of everyone on the road will not reduce the number of accidents on the road, quite the contrary, as higher speed limits in other countries prove that faster speeds equal less accidents.
Hwybear, do you not agree that if we had higher licencing standards more severe penalties here, things would not be better? As it stands, in Ontario our licencing issuer is privatized, and they don't make money by denying people licences (my assertion).Which is why we were saying that the driving standards here should be improved... as well as everything that you mentioned as far as people driving like idiots.
What gets me is when they pull out in front of you when there's no cars behind you. That being said, it doesn't bother too much if some one comes close to cutting me off, but then accelerates up to speed quickly. Like you pointed out, it's when they're in a big hurry to pull out into the road, then take their sweet arse time accelerating. Infuriatingly nonsensical, to say the least.Well... there's a wide range... but the ones going 10-20 under are also usually the ones who make right turns from the left lane and do other weird maneouvres. I love the ones who have a completely clear road, and wait until you're 10 feet from them, then they pull out and drive 20-30 under the limit.
Statistics: Posted by manwithaplan — Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:57 pm
Well... there's a wide range... but the ones going 10-20 under are also usually the ones who make right turns from the left lane and do other weird maneouvres. I love the ones who have a completely clear road, and wait until you're 10 feet from them, then they pull out and drive 20-30 under the limit.I also disagree with your statement that drivers in Toronto love to drive fast, I've found the opposite to be true, the majority of people on the GTA's express ways and city streets seem content to dawdle along 10-20 km/h below the speed limit.
Which is why we were saying that the driving standards here should be improved... as well as everything that you mentioned as far as people driving like idiots.however, from the posts I have read, those other countries have way higher standards in even obtaining a licence and the penalties for violations are severe.
In the end, we both have our perspectives on what should be done to improve traffic safety. This discussion board is here (partly) to exchange ideas about them. If we don't agree, there's no harm in that.To end the discussion on governors I was attempting to find a solution to the lane changing speeders, to which I feel needs to be 're-evaluated' in regard to consequences. That's it!
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I'm of the opinion that the unspoken speed limit on the 407 is 150 km/h, as I've done upwards of 130-140 km/h past cops (who I can see pointing the radar gun at oncoming traffic), and not gotten pulled over. I suspect that they probably catch people doing 50+ over the limit, then reduce the charge to 49 over to get them to pay the ticket instead of fighting it, though I have seen tow trucks included in traffic stops on a couple occasions.If anything, they should raise the limit on the 407. One other statistic: Raising the speed limit has been shown to cause a marked drop in the 99th percentile speed. That means that the people who were going the absolute fastest... actually slowed down.
No kidding. Friends and family laugh at me, but out of habit I usually drive with one hand over the horn any time I'm near another vehicle. More so in certain areas to the north and east of the city *cough*.One other thing... I used to live in Montreal. I'll drive there any day instead of Toronto. Montreal drivers are aggressive, but they're predictable. Toronto drivers range from being far more aggressive than anything you'll see in Montreal, to people who are so scared that you wonder how they got out of their home. I have no idea what a driver in the GTA is going to do until they actually do it. That's the main reason driving here is so bad.
Statistics: Posted by manwithaplan — Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:49 pm
If anything, they should raise the limit on the 407. One other statistic: Raising the speed limit has been shown to cause a marked drop in the 99th percentile speed. That means that the people who were going the absolute fastest... actually slowed down.Like someone else mentioned, look at the 407. it's the fastest highway in Ontario, with hardly any accidents happening (I've been on this highway almost every day for the last three years, and can count on one hand the number of accidents I've seen, most of which where when it was snowing). And guess what, people (90% of the time) keep to the right! The left lane is almost always wide open for faster cars.
So if we did put in governors, what are you going to set the governed limit to? 100 km/h? 90? Those are still above the speed range where most fatal collisions happen. Most drunk drivers kill people on two-lane highways where they drift into oncoming traffic, or on surface streets where they blow through intersections and hit pedestrians or other cars. The ironic thing is that, a lot of the time, the drunk is actually going SLOWER than everyone else on the road. Telltale signs - going way slower than everyone else, unable to stay in their lane, braking late, brake lights activating for no reason, etc. If we're going to put some kind of gadget in there to control driver behaviour, maybe it should be an ignition interlock on all vehicles. (I'm not advocating that, but if we're going to have maximum effect, it should start there.)with governors to put and end to reckless dangerous driving from some idiot who is probably drunk
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Statistics: Posted by etcheffects — Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:59 pm
I don't think it was because of that, even now with the governors installed, wheels are still flying off trucks and killing people. I think it had more to do with trucks taking longer to stop from faster speeds than cars do.If putting governors on vehicles are such a bad idea why did they enforce them on ALL commercial trucks?
Was it because of a fatality from the wheel flying off a tractor-trailer that all trucks had to have governors installed?
No argument here. I'll even turn my lights on if there is simply heavy cloud cover.What will it take for everyone who to admit that the current system needs revamping - where to start??
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Although, I do believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that you can still receive a ticket for driving too fast for conditions even if your speed is at or under the limit.
I guess this would depend on weather conditions, flow of traffic, and common sense which I have found as driving both commercial trucks and my own vehicles not everyone has. One example of using 'common sense' is making sure you have your lights on when driving in bad weather and/or your 4way flashers alerting other drivers that you are travelling at alot slower speed. Same reason farm tractors must have a slow moving triangle sign on the rear of their tractors when on secondary roads and lights and mirrors depending on the circumstance.
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