Ontario Highway Traffic Act

Discuss the Ontario Highway Traffic Act.


Post Your Traffic Ticket, and Get Help!


The Ontario Traffic Ticket Forum!

       
    

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 5 posts ] 
  Print view

Cell Phone Ticket. Questions and do I have a defense?
Author Message
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:01 am 
Offline
Newbie

Joined: Thu May 26, 2011 7:11 pm
Posts: 11
I have a court date in January for a cell phone/distracted driving ticket. I have a few questions.

1. Does this ticket go on your driving abstract like a speeding ticket would.

2. I was not talking on my cell phone but a blue tooth set. The one that attaches to the visor above the window. I was at a red light and had the device plugged in as the battery was low. I picked the device up to hear the person I was talking to better while I was fully stopped. The blue tooth was not attached to the visor at this point in time.

3. Could I ask the cop to indentify the device I was using? I doubt he noticed it was a blue tooth? Would this help my cause?

I did not push the issue with the officer when the ticket was issued. I just took the ticket. I reviewed the legislation for this law and the type of blue tooth i was using was not mentioned directly. I also noticed there was a piece about talking being ok if your auto was not moving ( mine was at a red light)

Thoughts are appreciated. Thanks.


Top
 Profile  
 
Re: Cell Phone Ticket. Questions and do I have a defense?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:25 am 
Offline
Member

Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:06 pm
Posts: 193
Stopped at a light is not parked. To be parked you need to be off the roadway or stopped lawfully and not impeding traffic.

Holding a blue tooth is still driving holding a hand held communication device. It needs to be well for simplicity sake Not in your hand.

I guess that is why the section says communication device and not a cell phone.

Police will testify that they saw you holding a communication device. There is no way cops can or will know all the devices out there.

My evidence is causally something simple like I observed driving holding XXXXX either up to his ear or in front and that I observed his mouth to be moving as if he was speaking. I will also describe what the device looked like to me such as square, black and grey in color, curly cord running down etc.

OPS


Top
 Profile  
 
Re: Cell Phone Ticket. Questions and do I have a defense?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:35 pm 
Offline
VIP
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:20 am
Posts: 978
These tickets do go on your driving record, like all driving tickets.

The officer just has to prove that it was a device capable of transmitting/receiving data, not specifically what type of device it was.

The closest thing in the exemptions would be s. 14(2) in O/Reg. 366/09, which says:

A person may drive a motor vehicle on a highway while pressing a button on a device that is worn on his or her head or hung over or placed inside his or her ear or is attached to his or her clothing and is linked to a hand-held wireless communication device to make, answer or end a cell phone call or to transmit or receive voice communication on a two-way radio or a hand microphone or portable radio.

_________________
Former Police Officer, Law Student, and aspiring Criminal Lawyer
http://www.SimonBorys.ca - Bio and Blog

NOTHING I SAY ON HERE IS APPROVED BY ANY POLICE SERVICE, NOR IS IT LEGAL ADVICE.


Top
 Profile  
 
Re: Cell Phone Ticket. Questions and do I have a defense?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:11 pm 
Offline
Member

Joined: Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:28 am
Posts: 120
What about an emergency situation, where you call 911. Isn't that an exemption too?


Top
 Profile  
 
Re: Cell Phone Ticket. Questions and do I have a defense?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:12 pm 
Offline
VIP

Joined: Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:49 pm
Posts: 1068
Location: Ontario
diehard wrote:
What about an emergency situation, where you call 911. Isn't that an exemption too?


Yes.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 5 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Related topics
 Topics   Author   Replies   Views   Last post 
There are no new unread posts for this topic. Cell phone usage ticket in Quebec.

2slow2go

3

594

Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:17 am

2slow2go View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. OOPS! Anyone beat a cell phone ticket yet?

ponyboyt

9

1863

Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:06 pm

OPS Copper View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Ticket for Using Hand Held Device (Cell phone)

Mak Man

3

3663

Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:45 pm

Radar Identified View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Cell Phone Ticket - Valid Deffence?? Worth trying?

LADYDREAMER

4

552

Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:28 pm

Stanton View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Citizen demands charges be laid - Cell Phone

Susquatch

4

421

Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:49 pm

Susquatch View the latest post

 


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to: